HI Lloyd : In what form does Al exist when the PH is above the cutoff
point? 

How does calcium get depleted? Does it leach away like the inorganic N ?

Regards 
TaChung Huang



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> Does anyone know whether aluminium locks calcium up in soils?
>
> roger
> --
> Hi Roger

                  Other way round!!- calcium locks up aluminium -  Its a
chain of events - calcium depletion - then low pH - then the acidity
makes aluminium available - Al is a +++ so its some of the last to come
unstuck. So you are not going to have available aluminium at toxic
levels unless you have the extreme low pH that comes with a serious lack
of calcium (or magnesium in a real sandy soil). This will be at pH less
than 4.5 calcium chloride - in our red soils we can go as low as 4.2
before serious trouble - in your country probably 4.4 would be the
cutoff point. . Aluminium levels rocket upwards as the pH drops that
last half point or so. So the aluminium is a result of a lack of
available calcium not the cause of it. Cheers Lloyd Charles

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