On 14 Oct 02, Philip Owen wrote:
> Begging your pardon, I would insist that grasslands are the climax
> vegetation for the region, having evolved over at least 200 million
> years.
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On Lawrence London's Permaculture list, Mark Ludwig is a strong 
advocate of US prairielands. Inspection of the archives at 
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture may add a string or two 
to your bow?

> Note that I hesitate to use the word 'forest' in association with
> these timber plantations. There is no undergrowth, few birds,
> minimal soil life and no sounds of insect's buzzing around. 
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Oliver Rackham, now a retired Cambridge don, is scathing in his 
criticism of UK forestry (= plantation) development. His strong 
advocacy of 'woodmanship' clinched my resolution of the 
wilderness/productivity dichotomy as it applies to the progress of our 
property. Closed canopy 'forestry' (long practiced in parts of Europe) 
with its close attention to the 'underwood' is gaining recognition in 
New Zealand.  

Rackham has written several readable books, there isn't a great deal 
of his iconoclastic stuff on the Internet. Try:
http://medievalarchaeology.unisi.it/NewPages/COLLANE/TESTIQDS/paesaggio/07.rtf
http://www.hamar.fsnet.co.uk/teg/7/EcologistsAgainstTriumph.html
http://www.hamar.fsnet.co.uk/teg/7/Falacy.html
http://www.logrus.demon.co.uk/Rackham.htm

eg: "We live in an age in which accuracy is called pedantry; presenting 
both sides of an argument is called complacency; and who says 
something is considered more important than whether it is true. The 
line between education and entertainment is dangerously thin."

Cheerio... Rex

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