Hugh, Yes, you are right. And, I drink some of that forest understory organic coffee. MMMMM Good!
Cheers, Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 14 octobre, 2002 05:15 Subject: Re: forest to farm > Dear Robin, > > I think you'd find exceptions, such as some of the biodynamic and organic > coffee farms where the coffee tree is grown back in its original place as a > forest under story tree. A Large exception is affoot as the result of the > work of one of the speakers at Allan's conference, Howard Shapiro. Maybe > some sof the other attendees can tell you of his work restoring caccao to > is place in a cultivated forest diversity of a wide variety of species, > many of commercial value, which combined can raise caccao farmer's incomes > by roughly 300%. Enough to send the kids to college or to invest in a farm > for them when they wed. > > Best, > Hugh Lovel > > > > >All, > > > >Of course not! Transformation of forests to agriculture has been a > >disaster all over the world. This is because industrial agriculture > >systems are slaves to chemical and genetic industries. Thanks to Monsanto, > >and others... Forests converted to chemical agriculture is the main thing. > >Chemical agriculture to organic agriculture is the 'newer' sustainable > >thing, and organic to Biodynamic is the spiritually sustainable thing. Or > >something like that... > > > >Yes, you can find some examples of good management, and proper > >forest-to-agricultural conversions, but they are mostly the local initiative > >of earth loving people, such as Biodynamic practitioners, or other cultures > >such as the first nations of north America. Have a look at the C-Dar World > >Forest Foundation http://www.c-dar.com. They are both converting a forest > >to an agricultural land, and developing a method for bringing BD to > >forests... (that parts in the making...). > > > >Again... sustainability is subjective and a question of tradeoffs. What > >values do we want to sustain? Who is we? > > > >Cheers, > > > >Robin > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Roger Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: 13 octobre, 2002 04:16 > >Subject: Re: forest to farm > > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >Sure, we been doing that for three hundred and fifty years in the usa. > >> > > >> But with what long-standing - sustainable - success? > >> > >> roger > >> > >> > > Visit our website at: www.unionag.org > >
