[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll be better tomorrow, but I just had to vent tonight.
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But, how highfalutin we all are...."" this isn't good, that is so bad, why would you consider anything else?""
I love a debate as much as anyone else. There are some sound ideas coming out of this group, only they're very small voices. Hidden between all the know-
it-alls. martha, disappointed in the meaness and small-
spiritedness of this group.

Ah, Martha, Martha,

The reality is that if there was nothing else to eat, nothing at all, humans would eat chicken shit even if they had to put clothes pegs on their noses and wear nappies all the time. Such are the ways of survival in an inhumane world.

We all have our ambitions and targets (AND I do promise that I will get that trial and other stuff going before too long) BUT in the face of starvation, deprivation, brutalisation, and all the other 'tions', we would bury them deeper than the cow horns.

Fish waste is wonderful stuff. I really mean that although it sounds (and smells) like crap. It could be dried and ground up into fish meal and added to seaweed processed in the same way and the world would have a cheap high protein food full of desirable minerals. But that doesn't happen, instead it finds its way into petfood.

There is a wealth of fish in the waters around this little island off the northwest coast of New Zealand - and it generates a wealth of fish waste. Ditto seaweed. Would you believe that the top supplier to Oz of seaweed meal is based in Norway?

You said, and I think it bears repeating, 'meanness and small-spiritedness of this group'. But they're not, not really, (notice I said 'they' not 'I' ;) ) they're just people like you and me, people with problems, and mortgages, and dis-ease, and wondering where to go to buy bird seed or soap flakes or non-plastic wrapped cookies, and whether 500 will work on snow-clad ground, people who have been misled into believing all the instructions are on the can lid they threw away last week when in reality all the ways that anything can be done are locked up in that tiny room inside our minds we're always searching for the key for.

There are times when the inanities of BDNOW! chat drive me squirly - and I have to say the number thereof outweigh the other times by a long way. But the other times are priceless and they are what I am here for, after all.

Aren't we all?

roger

What we knows, we knows, and what we don't know, we don't want to know!






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