to Steve Diver, thanks for your comments on the steam/flame web sites. I
would appreciate if you could advise the contact details for Atarus in
Australia as I will contact them concerning their applicators. cheers Ross
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From: Steve Diver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: BD and steam


> Flame, Infra-Red, Steam.... now you're talking
> about some hot topics in weed control.
>
> See:
>
> Flame Weeding for Vegetable Crops
> http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/flameweedveg.html
> http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/flameweedveg.pdf
>
> This is the NCAT-ATTRA pub with all the suppliers
> and resources.
>
> EcoFarm in California just held a workshop on this topic in
> January, where I presented a summary of this topic. We
> featured the Waipuna hot foam equipment from New Zealand
> and the Infra-Red EcoWeeders from Switzerland,
> distributed by Forevergreen in British Columbia.
>
> Infra-red weeders are Swiss made. In North America,
> they are available from two suppliers: Forevergreen and
> Rittenhouse.
>
> A market farm scale flame weeder with a flaming hood,
> on wheels, can be obtained for $300-400.
>
> Flame Weeders in West Virginia
> http://www.flameweeders.cjb.net/
>
> The Lady Punto, also known as EcoWeeder Lady,
> is an entry level hand-held Infra-Red weeder for $170.
>
> This is what you need, Merla, to try it out.  A landscaper
> said they work great around trees and to edge sidwalks,
> pavements, and borders.
>
> Forevergreen EcoWeeders
> http://www.chemfree-weedcontrol.com/
>
> The Junior 3 is getting into a farm-scale Infra-Red
> model for about $870.
>
> The Agri Infra-Red models on wheels for market farmers
> are going into the $1,200 and $1,600 range.... but don't
> quote me. Ask them.
>
> The Infra-Red weeders are therefore more expensive,
> but still reasonable to a commercial organic farmer or
> landscaper.  When you're looking at  200', 400', and
> 600' rows of carrots, parsely, beans, onions, corn...
> well, you get the picture.  Pro-rate your cost out over
> several years.
>
> The Waipuna hot foam is another story.  The expense
> to lease these units are more inline with municipal park
> departments, institutional landscape maintenance, and
> large-scale orchards, vineyards, and berry operations....
> rather than small farms and market gardens.   Yet, steam
> or hot foam is *very* appealing to an organic farming
> situation.  If you can imagine a 40-80 acre organic
> blackberry plantation in Oregon, you can understand how
> it would match this kind of organic farming.  If you are talking
> about 5 acres of market vegetables, it is not in your budget.
>
> Waipuna
> http://www.waipuna.com/
>
> The Atarus steam weeding equipment, from Australia,
> is now available in the U.S. through Delta Liquid Energy
> in Paso Robles, California.
> http://www.deltaliquidenergy.com/thermweedprodpage.html
>
> Have not seen what the Atarus costs, but again I am
> guessing it is more akin to larger-scale vineyards, rather
> than small farms.   It is the nature of equipment costs.
>
> Merla, it occurs to me that you can pass along information
> about the Waipuna and Atarus steam-based weed control
> equipment to your weed control board.  This is technology
> that works.  Keep in mind, however, it is really expensive
> and not something they are likely to "jump" on.  Over time,
> they might "warm up" to the idea.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Diver
>
>

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