Roger: I have seen it stated in a few writings, the only one I can think of
off hand is Alex Podilinsky, that there is an increased effect of super
applied to BD paddocks. I would think that from a BD perspective the trial
is of interest only, what may happen is that it will engage the interest of
conventional farmers who previously believed that BD was a nonsense. Maybe
all is not lost yet. Like others I believe things happen for a reason.
David C

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Can Error be turned to Advantage?


> Gil Robertson wrote:
>
> > May I ask why superphosphate was applied to the reveg, assuming it is
> > native veg, as most do not handle super at all well.
>
>
> I said it was 'inadvertent', I cannot go further than that.
>
> >
> >
> > My guess is that the BD area will handle the super better than the
> > other areas, thus giving the impression it was to right thing to
include.
>
>
> Yes, I must admit I have had thoughts that it happened because it was
> needed to. Part of my philosophy is that the soil dictates its needs to
> the Universe. The Project Manager, however, thought the occurrence an
> absolute disaster and the consultant ain't too happy either!
>
> > Is there any visual difference between the standard BD and the
> > Radionic BD?
>
>
> Visually, not much, but we are going into winter. Energetically I would
> say the radionic has an 'edge' on the standard. That is purely my
> impression from energies picked up walking the different areas. We could
> probably make a more valid comparison next spring.
>
> >
> > Care to tell me something about the Natural Earth Healing Circle? Off
> > line if required.
>
>
> In its infancy as yet. The concept is groups (links) of people applying
> natural healing methods to land and water problems be they large or
> small, broadacre, smallholding or garden. In my opinion humankind has
> proved conclusively that there is far more to caring for/repairing our
> environment than the mere and continued application of chemicals and the
> scientific approach.
>
> Take for example the current debate (on this list) on the legality or
> otherwise of 'standard' BD preps. Philosophically I have a great
> difficulty with having to kill animals to produce BD substances no
> matter how beneficial the end products might be. In this house even
> stray spiders and cockroaches get politely removed and placed elsewhere.
>
> Neither do I believe that cow horns are the only container in which
> BD500/501 can be produced. What I do believe is that in the simplistic
> equation 'cow manure + cow horn + horn clay + 6 months burial in the
> ground = BD500' something vital is missing. Equally so if we change the
> equation to read 'energy + energy + energy + 6 months burial in the
> ground = BD500'.  Were we to identify that 'vital' something, the
> container question would likely resolve itself.
>
> Let me apparently digress a moment. Walking through any patch of
> woodland, I will see trees that stand straight and true, that lean this
> way, that way and every which way, that have branch systems which
> resemble whirlpools in wood. To all intents and purposes, certainly to
> the majority of eyes that see them, these leaning and/or misshapen trees
> have grown naturally into these conformations. To a dowser or someone
> who works with natural energy, the truth is that trees grow according to
> the forces applied to them - and these include natural energy flows and
> vortices which cause trees to lean or whirlpool or writhe upwards.
>
> Try this. Walk towards a growing tree your own height with a divining
> rod held at head height, it will react to the aura at a short distance
> from the trunk. Repeat the exercise 100mm down. Keep on doing it lower
> and lower at similar intervals, sooner or later you will reach a point
> near the trunk from which the next 'stop' will be further out. Write the
> results down. Repeat the exercise three times around the tree, write
> everything down and draw it on a graph. Then go and look at Glen
> Atkinson's 'Spiral Astrology' on his website; almost instantly you will
> see an image very like the one on your graph - a double spiral. Actually
> a double vortex. He is using it to demonstrate cosmic and earth forces -
> the same forces which shape trees.
>
> What has this to do with BD preps?   We have just passed the time when
> multitudes of cow horns stuffed with cow manure and clay have been
> buried in the ground for their maturation. I venture to suggest that if
> a dowser were to conduct the above exercise with an imaginary tree
> growing at the centre of a maturation site, he/she would detect the top
> section of a double vortex. Being a dowser, he/she would be able to
> 'read' below ground as well and find the bottom half.
>
> Think about it.
>
> Roger
>
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