Thanks for the update, Mike.

We are experimenting with some 3.12 kernels and it certainly seems to 
change/improve the problems we are seeing. Not sure if it is 100% yet but 
it has definitely made a difference.

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:17:47 AM UTC-8, Mike Bremford wrote:
>
> I switched up to Kernel 3.12 and that certainly fixed my stability issues 
> with USB - haven't seen any USB related issues since then, wireless is 
> fine, 3G modem is fine, everything working. Unfortunately I've lost my 
> UARTs, but that's a different story and no doubt one that will resolve 
> itself as more time is spent on getting 3.12 to stable.
>
> Certainly for anyone else having similar USB issues, there's a good chance 
> kernel 3.8 is the cause and kernel 3.12 is the solution
>
>
>
> On 8 November 2013 21:39, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I should also add that all of these USB devices work rock solid running 
>> the same code and drivers on an intel laptop with Ubuntu.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:15:19 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> We have a system with many USB peripherals, and we have done a lot of 
>>> experimenting with them.
>>> Some peripherals play nicer than others, and some cause problems right 
>>> away. In general, the more USB traffic there is, the more likely we are to 
>>> have problems, and the sooner we see system crashes etc.
>>>
>>> Our Huawei Cell modem seems to cause problems, as do some wifi adapters, 
>>> and some Phidget interface devices, especially with lots of data flowing.
>>> By itself our Logitech quickcam pro 9000 seems OK, but when we are using 
>>> it along with other devices we see problems.
>>> Simple keyboards/mice, bluetooth adapters, and GPS serial ports seem OK.
>>> Sometimes by minimizing the number of devices attached it mitigates but 
>>> does not solve the USB connects/disconnects and system crashes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 8, 2013 11:02:20 AM UTC-8, Philip Polstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you seen any issues with a specific type of USB device?  I have 
>>>> had good luck with the Alfa wireless adapters, but have seen issues with 
>>>> some other adapters.  YMMV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have seen similar issues with USB devices on the BBB and are pretty 
>>>>> mystified. We suspect a low-level bug in the USB drivers.
>>>>> Did you ever get a good resolution?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, on the HDMI console you will probably not see kernel panic 
>>>>> messages- they are usually brought out only on the serial header, for 
>>>>> which 
>>>>> you will need a 3.3V USB/serial FTDI adapter.
>>>>> We also see lots of warnings and USB connect/disconnects in the system 
>>>>> logs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:30:44 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New here, but I've been experimenting with the BeagleBone black for a 
>>>>>> few months now with much success - I2C, SPI, ADC, GPIO, UARTS are all 
>>>>>> working for me, and I have a my custom cape wining it's way from the fab 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> me as I type. But now I'm trying to integrate it with the USB 
>>>>>> peripherals 
>>>>>> I'll need and I am getting constant freezes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My setup. I have a good power supply (3A 5V) connected via the barrel 
>>>>>> connector. I have a powered USB hub from a reputable manufacturer and 
>>>>>> which 
>>>>>> also has a 3A supply. In that hub I have a bluetooth dongle, an Atheros 
>>>>>> 9K 
>>>>>> based Wifi dongle, and a Huawei E3131 3G modem. There's also an ethernet 
>>>>>> connection. I'm running a system derived from the Ubuntu self-installer 
>>>>>> on 
>>>>>> eLinux.org (ie that plus updates and a few additional packages) with 
>>>>>> the 3.8.13-bone28 kernel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The symptoms are after a variable number of hours the device hangs. 
>>>>>> The heartbeat LED stops and it drops off the network. I'm normally 
>>>>>> running 
>>>>>> with HDMI disabled but when I enable it I see nothing on the screen 
>>>>>> except 
>>>>>> the console login - no panic message, although when it's hung the cursor 
>>>>>> stops blinking. I have to power cycle it and when it comes back there is 
>>>>>> nothing in the logs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I haven't got much to work from here. I had loads of issues with 
>>>>>> another Wifi card so switched to one with the atheros chipset, but I 
>>>>>> still 
>>>>>> suspect it's the USB subsystem causing the problems as I had no issues 
>>>>>> until I started plugging in devices (plus the hotplug doesn't seem to 
>>>>>> work 
>>>>>> reliably under 3.8.13).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess my questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Does anyone have any suggestions - I gather a few people have been 
>>>>>> here before me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Is there any way I can get some logs out of this? I've been 
>>>>>> running LInux for 20 years but am new to embedded, and I find a crash 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> no panic message quite disconcerting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Is it likely to be hardware or software causing this? The 
>>>>>> beaglebone black is about 3 months old, so I think it's the latest 
>>>>>> revision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. At this point I guess my next option is upgrading to the 
>>>>>> EXPERIMENTAL or TESTING kernels from Robert Nelson (at 3.12.0-rc3 and 
>>>>>> rc7 
>>>>>> respectively at the moment) - has anyone tried these, and are they fit 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> purpose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers... Mike
>>>>>>
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