Hmmmm.

Gerald



On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hey guys!
>
> If anyone still experiences the unexpected reboot issue I've found another
> solution to avoid it: raise the pin 2 (unconnect it from a pcb pad) of
> TL5209 (soic-8 chip) and solder a wire between this pin and 5V supplied
> from a wall adapter. TL5209 feeds mostly the Ethernet PHY and sometimes the
> PHY consumes to much current that is not possible to pass through tps65127.
> I really don't have any theory about it but this solution proves 100% its
> viability. Applied to my board and it worked during 96 hours and I even
> heated it by a hair fan to 70 Celsius degrees and it worked just as
> expected. Of course this solution works only if you use 5VDC source, not
> USB power. Another pros is that you only need a wire and a soldering tool,
> while the solution with a MOSFET requires a lot more precise soldering and
> the MOSFET itself.
>
>
> 2013/11/22 Gerald Coley <[email protected]>
>
>> That is not what it was for. It was to prevent a premature loss of reset
>> during power up.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:18 AM, rod calabio <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> There was a note on Beaglebone Black that the newest version   BBB
>>> version 6  has or'd the reset button and the power button to prevent a
>>> reset, now whether or not it is the same problem
>>> as posted originally, ho knows.  But I had the same issue where I was
>>> ssh'd into the BBB for several hours and then it just stopped for no reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:56:09 AM UTC-8, lisarden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys!
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure that this mail-list is also read by people who are
>>>> invloved into kernel development and they may be aware of why 3.8 does not
>>>> reboot and 3.2 (TI) reboots the BBB. Are they here and can surmise where
>>>> the issue is?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/11/20 Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>>  Ldo3 and ldo4 are not used to power any of really current- hungry
>>>>> unit like the ddr3 or the cpu core.
>>>>> 20 нояб. 2013 г. 13:23 пользователь "Jakub Żymełka" <
>>>>> [email protected]> написал:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On the TI product page 
>>>>> http://www.ti.com/product/tps65217B#feature<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ti.com%2Fproduct%2Ftps65217B%23feature&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHLbRM9BBCxhK0SOnLAnQJojRBVHA>
>>>>>  is
>>>>>> the information about current limit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Two Independent Load Switches That Can Be Configured as LDOs
>>>>>> Configured as LDOs:
>>>>>> - LDO Output Voltage Range: 1.5 V – 3.3 V
>>>>>> - VIN Range: 2.7 V – 5.8 V
>>>>>> *- 200-mA Current Limit (TPS65217A, B)*
>>>>>> *- 400-mA Current Limit (TPS65217C, D)"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Or maybe i'm wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W dniu środa, 20 listopada 2013 10:03:54 UTC+1 użytkownik lisarden
>>>>>> napisał:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you prove it? You mean it can supply more current? :)
>>>>>>> > But tps65217C (in BBB) has a more power availability vs. tps65217B
>>>>>>> (in BBW).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/11/20 Jakub Żymełka <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I see.
>>>>>>>> But tps65217C (in BBB) has a more power availability vs. tps65217B
>>>>>>>> (in BBW).
>>>>>>>> Reducing the CPU speed is not the solution. For example I would
>>>>>>>> like to work with a clock speed of 1GHz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, are You suggesting that the PMIC is incorrect?
>>>>>>>> Can anyone else give an opinion? Maybe the designers of the new
>>>>>>>> BBB?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Jakub.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W dniu środa, 20 listopada 2013 08:42:18 UTC+1 użytkownik lisarden
>>>>>>>> napisał:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Jakub, answering to your question:
>>>>>>>>> tps65217b is not tps65217b (bbb)
>>>>>>>>> Bbw 600mhz vs bbb 1000mhz
>>>>>>>>> Ddr2 pwr consumption != ddr3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why when people reduce the cpu freq systems become stable,
>>>>>>>>> but I don't think it can help because I run my board in cpu ondemand
>>>>>>>>> governor and it still reboots. However when running ezsdk my system 
>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>> to be stable while on Ubuntu it reboots randomly
>>>>>>>>> 20 нояб. 2013 г. 10:53 пользователь "Jakub Żymełka" <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написал:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lei Wang,
>>>>>>>>>> yes, You can just use a wire to connect SYS_5V and VDD_5V after
>>>>>>>>>> boot up.
>>>>>>>>>> We've done this before we choose the option with the transistor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are working on the 04.2013 U-boot, so we will try the newest
>>>>>>>>>> version 10.2013 and I will let you know about my results.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lisarden,
>>>>>>>>>> According to you, the power management unit ( tps65217 ) in the
>>>>>>>>>> BBB is not able to provide enough power by single pin?
>>>>>>>>>> So why in the BBWhite or with the 3.8 kernel is no any random
>>>>>>>>>> reboot? The PMIC is exactly the same...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> W dniu wtorek, 19 listopada 2013 20:05:34 UTC+1 użytkownik
>>>>>>>>>> lisarden napisał:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this issue can probably be because tps65217 simply can't handle
>>>>>>>>>>> too much current through a single pin. If an internal switch 
>>>>>>>>>>> AC|USB=SYS get
>>>>>>>>>>> overheated then it can just shutdown to avoid a system damage
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/19 Lei Wang <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The time jumping issue seems to relate to u-boot per Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nelson's suggestion (https://groups.google.com/for
>>>>>>>>>>>> um/#!category-topic/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/xPxzYyNsA78).
>>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped in a newer u-boot images. It seems to fix the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the random reboots, I limited the CPU clock frequency to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 500MHz. It seems that the board is running more robust. So far I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't see
>>>>>>>>>>>> any random reboot. However I still don't understand why it seems 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Angstrom or 3.8 Android images make the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Connect SYS_5V and VDD_5V? Since I noticed by connecting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> board to a USB port (i.e. adb) seems to stop the random reboot, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>>>>>>>> it has something to do with VDD_5V and SYS_5V. I will do a little 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit more
>>>>>>>>>>>> digging into the schematic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For test purpose can I just use a wire to connect SYS_5V and
>>>>>>>>>>>> VDD_5V after boot up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:38:49 AM UTC-5, Jakub Żymełka
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  My BBB is A5C version. We've tested more than 10 pcs BBB and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of it has the same problem...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One, but not very elegant solution is to after start the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> board, make a jumper between pins SYS_5V and VDD_5V, in example 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mosfet transistor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With this jumper, on kernel 3.2 there was no reset from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time of three weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody have any other solutons? Because this cannot be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> final.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I look forward for suggestions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> W dniu piątek, 8 listopada 2013 05:12:08 UTC+1 użytkownik Lei
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wang napisał:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem with BBB running Android. I tested TI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prebuilt Android JB4.2 image. We have two versions of BBBs (A5A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and A5C).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both of them have the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted my question on Ti e2e website: http://e2e.ti.com/sup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port/embedded/android/f/509/p/297726/1049885.aspx#1049885<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fe2e.ti.com%2Fsupport%2Fembedded%2Fandroid%2Ff%2F509%2Fp%2F297726%2F1049885.aspx%231049885&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHi1SsOZgxRVM8W2MqzjKJrfNmu0A>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However it seems that the problem goes away when I load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angstrom image (based on 3.8 kernel). Also if I use Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henderson's Android image (also 3.8), the problem goes away. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot use Andrew's image since there are a lot drivers are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also have the time jump forward problem. The problem goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away when I switch to 3.8 kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakub, may I ask what version is your BBB?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 4:11:52 AM UTC-5, Jakub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Żymełka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no hints or any solutions...??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W dniu środa, 23 października 2013 13:09:00 UTC+2 użytkownik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakub Żymełka napisał:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a problem. It is based on an involuntary resetting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the BBBlack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This happens occasionally. About once a day. Totally when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you least expect it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This happens more often on higher frequencies ( 800Mhz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1Ghz).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the console at the time of reset, nothing extra is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed. No error's about kernel panic, sync, segmentation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fault or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like the same as if I pressed the reset button located
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the board - but I DIDN'T!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Koenkoi's linux-kernel ti33x-psp-3.2.28-r16c-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gitr720e07b4c1f687b61b147b31c698cb6816d72f01 + a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to run on the BBB.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/archive/linux-ti33x-psp-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.28-r16c+gitr720e07b4c1f687b61b147b31c6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98cb6816d72f01.zip<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkoenkooi%2Flinux%2Farchive%2Flinux-ti33x-psp-3.2.28-r16c%2Bgitr720e07b4c1f687b61b147b31c698cb6816d72f01.zip&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF7TTdwvsG9LEKU3mvETE6oHuItGw>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kernel is exactly the same as in the Angstrom release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would add, that on the BBW nothing bad happens,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything is working properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone has already had a similar situation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is necessary I can send the kernel patch and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I look forward for suggestions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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