On Monday, December 30, 2013 11:08:42 PM UTC+1, dave wrote: > > Allow me to add my support (AKA 2 cents) to this thread. Noting elsewhere > that CircuitCo has shipped over 100,000 units to date, if the cost had > included a couple of dollars for software development, that money could > have been put to good use. Also adding to the comment on TI, if they don't > provide support leading to the demand for the chip, the product will die. > It is in the interest of both TI and CircuitCo to see that at least one > underlying OS gets supported and will be around for a while. (At this point > I don't really care if it's Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, or even Slackware!) > > On my part, I just want an embedded system with Linux that "Just Runs!" I > place myself at a level slightly higher than novice since I have used (PC > based) Linux in previous projects. Admittedly, this platform is new and > there will be some pain in getting there, but I don't like seeing comments > of the nature that XXX OS is/will no longer be supported. I want to see > support from both TI and CircuitCo to ensure the continuing support of > their product. I just want to know that my efforts are not headed for the > proverbial drain even before I get it running. > > Expect anything from TI! My experience with TI started with their ARM Cortex M3. They suddenly dropped all Cortex M3 chips without having any replacement - customers went crazy in the forums! Marketing is the only thing TI can do successfully. Don't expect software support, unfortunately most other manufacturers also don't do better. Now I see that CircuitCo has plans to move to Debian? Just because they lost Koen, their only Linux developer? So I expect them to suddenly drop the BBB completely, as soon as the new Arduino Linux board starts selling successfully. Don't trust anybody in this business anymore.
If people here tell me that there is just nobody who is willing to do work for free I ask what are all these people who bought the thousands of BBB doing with their boards? Are they plugging them in, see that something works as long as you don't try to modify anything and then throwing them away? There must be many companies with enough Linux experience prototyping with the BBB. Why aren't they contributing to the kernel? Or are they just stupid, just working for themselves and ignoring the GPL? And if people here tell me that the BBB is just for fun / hobby then I ask myself, how people use TI chips in real Linux products? What is the difference between a BBB and a custom board? Isn't the BBB a reference platform that should work the best? Do you really believe that TI and CircuitCo are non-profit and build the BBB just because they like the Linux community? That's ridiculous! Angstrom is full of bugs, I am a Linux guru but even looking at the simplest startup scripts I see that they are full of bashisms etc. Some things in Angstrom work just because of some packages being pulled in by accident. The "production" images are a big mess. Yes, I dived into OpenEmbedded to see that everything is a big mess. It somehow works but don't touch it. Koen was great, it is amazing how he managed to do everything himself. But this is no excuse for TI and CircuitCo. Now I hear they want to sponsor them? I can't believe it... BTW, anything newer than Angstrom 2012.12 does not work at all. E.g. the Qt cross-toolchain in later Angstrom does not work at all and nobody knows why. Anguel > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
