hi azzy. man, i thought i was alone out here. u r ahead of me in this stuff. and i really need help if i hope 2 pull this off in my lifetime. do u have a website? i use c alot and i have 2 admit u r right about it. some fundamental things r counter-intuitive. however, as i am not a formally-trained programmer, i accept them as abstractions of reality by some artsy-techno-academics. and it was all a prank?!? that is 2 much! but enuf of this bashing, the natives r getting restless. i will read the sitara manuals. u better b right, they r huge. later............dd
On Monday, February 17, 2014 7:46:31 PM UTC+2, azzythehillbilly mir wrote: > > Hi DD, > > I know exactly what you mean when you say that your assembly software > rocks. > > And I am with you when you talk about the , “mountains of dry meaningless > documentation” > > Only someone who has written good assy knows what assy can do and what C > can never hope to. > > Every one said that a 8051 running at 30 MHz could never transfer a bmp > file from an SDHC card to an LCD at a reasonable speed. They are wrong. > With just one 4 x 2 input nand gate I found a way to do just that using > the built in SPI port on the 89C51AC3. The data is setup and goes > directly from the memory to the LCD. The processor only controls the clock. > The rest is assembly. > > I will soon start a blog of my own where I promise to fleece C, Linux and > all that trash. > > I have nearly given up on this whole business. Besides, I don't want to > learn/code in C or any other “higher” lingo any more. And I am no fan of > Linux either. > > I see no need for it. From the bits I know, and looking at C code, I can > tell that it is an impossibly stupid language. I am sure that you are aware > that it started as a joke. (Google for "C started as a joke" .) > > I am reading the Cortex manuals and hope to be able to write good Assy > for this processor. I have no need for the “packages” > > Can one imagine a language where even the experts cannot agree as to what > a particular combination of operators forming a statement means. And like > marketing warriors they claim that the minimalism of C is a prized > feature. In fact a deadly weakness Baaaaah. > > I hold that Assembly is an undervalued stock. And C’s much vaunted cross > platform capability is oversold. A lingo where such basic elements such as > the very size of variables is suspect. Porting C code from one platform to > another is a joke, albeit a cruel one. It might not be to every ones taste > but if you can do it you will have no need for C. > > And it is not true that my work was some low grade S*&4#$T. One of my > proud creations flies at over 20,000 feet and the other moves at 900MPH at > under 500 feet. So I know my stuff. > > I have been probing at some of these heroes who talk incessantly on the > forums about the latest software they have mastered. I suspect that they > actually in fact understand zilch. Some of my pointy questions in a way > that suggests this conclusion. Sorry to be so rude. > > And do you want to know why the “experts” don’t tell us how? Because they > don’t always know it themselves. > > Read up the Sitara manuals. They are long but easy to follow. I think I > should with luck be able to handle the Sitara. It’s a wonderful processor. > I have given up on my A20 Cubie though. It lacks good support. > > Thanks for reading this harangue. > > I will post here the link to my blog when I have it up and running. The > skunks have given permission > > Azzythehillbilly. > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:06:42 -0800 > From: [email protected] <javascript:> > To: [email protected] <javascript:> > Subject: Re: [beagleboard] learning ARM assy with BBB > > I'm with you Azzy. What we want to do is very fundamental. So why don't > these experts tell us how? > I wrote an assembler (on another ARM platform), learned the instruction > set, stacks, interrupts etc... > for the first time, it took me 6 months. But baby, it rocks! Fast, > stable & bypass mountains of dry > meaningless documentation. > Now, if i can only crack the sitara..... Like, what is wrong with these > corporate engineers? Don't they > want us to use their technology? > All I want to do is boot up my binary. > > let me know if you get somewhere. > > thx................dd > > On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:21:26 AM UTC+2, azzythehillbilly mir > wrote: > > Thanks Gerald. > > I have installed CCS . Now I am confronted with a gargantuan 1000+ GB IDE > and don't know where to begin. > > There is tons of distractions. It boggles the mind. > > I might have to uninstall it. For the CCS targets serious program > development. My needs are simpler and I don't want to waste time learning > what can or should be postponed. > > Isn't there some simpler IDE for simple needs like mine? Some system > where I can write mixed C and assy code? > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:48:10 -0500 > Subject: Re: [beagleboard] learning ARM assy with BBB > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started > > Gerald > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Mark Lazarewicz <[email protected]>wrote: > > You couldn't have searched very hard Google TI IDE you will see Code > Composer > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on > Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *azzythehillbilly mir <[email protected]>; > *To: *<[email protected]>; > *Subject: *[beagleboard] learning ARM assy with BBB > *Sent: *Mon, Oct 28, 2013 3:18:24 PM > > Hi Forum, > > I have a problem and I am hoping that I kind soul will direct me whereby I > am able to help myself get on my feet. > This is a bit embarrassing, but here it goes. I got myself a BBB because I > want to switch from using MCS-51 processors and the like. I have no > formal schooling in processors or electronics. I started working on > processors around 1980 when I got hold of an Ohio scientific and later an > AppleII+. Later moved to Z80/Z8000/8086/68030 and similar as I started to > formally design HW and SW for embedded systems. > Never had to bother even with C so have been hacking merrily away with > Assembly only. Rarely adding ( with difficulty) bits of code for floating > point when my own extended math routines simply would not do. This works > for me as I have learned to cram as much functionality as possible into > limited resources. I can get working code written and debugged faster than > most C coders can. I know nearly zero about Linux//Ubuntu/Fedora. Unless > someone has worked on the simple old controllers one might not understand > how exciting ( mouth watering even! ) it is to contemplate the peripherals > this Sitara 3359 processor provides. I just need to get a jump start. > > Here is the problem, I want to write code for the Sitara-3359 and learn > the nuts and bolts of low level programming (assy). I need some kind of a > simple IDE Where I can take control of the processor from reset onwards ( > barring un-by passable initializing code prewritten into the processor?). > I have been searching all over the net for just that but come up frustrated > by the huge number of names/acronyms and all. There are just too many > branches to investigate. I get lost every time I try. For the moment I > want merely to exercise the Sitara and study its responses, no desire to > write any commercial application (with the possible exception of a camera > interface for my telescopes). > > Please kindly somebody point me in the right directions. Once I have the > correct IDE set up I can take over and dive into the details. No problem > there. > Thanks in advance > > > Azzythehillbilly > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/beagleboard/dAisubAANbw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/beagleboard/dAisubAANbw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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