well ok, but I'm not sure to understand all of it :

"I am 50% convinced today that I will build my platform on Linux RT"


what are the other 50% stands for ? what will change it for a complete
decision, what are the requirements above price ?
For the "freeing" part I'd say that QNX did it differently than the other
(MS, Ti, and even Arm ) with their licensing policy. Anyway, this doesn't
helped so much indeed:  hence my particular focus on Xenomai for BBB
instead.


2014-03-14 11:26 GMT+01:00 Thorsten Gonschior <
[email protected]>:

> quote: "Seems not so obvious. So QNX has an opensource part but for BBB it
> implies these steps ..."
>
> hm, ok sry I must have missed your point :)
>
> I agree that QNX is probably the best choice for a robust and well
> designet real time embedded system. In this I do not bother the OS-price or
> royalty which probably is scalable.
>
> Texas Instruments learned this 10 or 15 Years ago when the Code Composer
> Studio was very expensive and a simple JTAG Pod cost 3.000,-. Even
> Microsoft pushes the development platforms for free into the market,
> because all of them understand that the major market is selling the
> operating system (in case of Microsoft) or selling the hardware (in case of
> TI) and not selling the development solutions. See XILINX, development
> studio incuding simulator for free.
>
> This is what makes people work with it. Expecting 10.000,- as entry cost
> is the best guaranty to avoid thousands of developers working with QNX and
> thereby hundreds of thousands licences of the OS.
>
> I dont understand this philosophy ....
>
> 20 Years of experience as embedded developer showed me on thing. 1.000,-
> eur or $ ist the magic barrier. this is what people invest as an attempt
> for some half cooked idea thy have. Max be that 95 % of those ideas will
> never reach any state of economic asset, but once in a while it will and it
> will do with power. suppressing this kind of innovative forces is hurting
> the provider itself.
>
> I am 50% convinced today that I will build my platform on Linux RT.
>
> keep you posted ...
> Thorsten.
>
>
>
> Am Freitag, 14. März 2014 10:54:19 UTC+1 schrieb dlewin555:
>>
>> Well that was my point in my previous comment. Whereas I think QNX is a
>> really great RTOS hopefully "brigded" to opensource -whereas being closed
>> source- in recent years (yes recent compared to >20 years of existence) ,
>> from the start I've believed in the µKernel architecture as the best one.
>> Anyway, prices and -*royalties*- allways stopped me, as for µC/OS as
>> well.
>> Honestly, I really like to use QNX on BBB but strongly believe that if
>> it's not on Raspberry it won't be ported to BBB neither.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-14 10:40 GMT+01:00 Thorsten Gonschior <tgons...@spectral-process.
>> com>:
>>
>>> NEWS:  - Show stopper  -
>>>
>>> After clearing up some technical aspects I ran into a major show
>>> stopper. Price of QNX Develoment environment is about 10.000,-eur. Even if
>>> I would be willing to invest this kind of money, my tarket was to establish
>>> a development platform for engineering offices. I know for sure that most
>>> of small engineering offices or soltary engineer are not willing or able to
>>> invest this for smaller of projects.
>>>
>>> I start the attempt to convince QNX that there is a large community out
>>> there willing to work with qnx OS for a huge variety of projects and
>>> applications, but not willing to passt this kind of entry barrier.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate comments on my assumption.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thorsten.
>>>
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