From: David Lambert <[email protected]> Organization: Breakaway Systems LLC Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: What OS to use?
> > > IMHO for me, the best compromise between stability and some UI friendliness is > CruchBang http://crunchbang.org/ Thanks David. I use a lot of tools from companies like TI, Lauterbach, BeyondCompare, etc, and I can imagine the response I would get when I report a bug if I used an unknown distro like CrunchBang. Does look interesting though. Regards, John > > On 04/22/2014 11:34 PM, John Syn wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: William Hermans <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: What OS to use? >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Very little John, but know that MINT has two "inner distro's" You have >>> regular which is based on Ubuntu, and LMDE which is Linux Mint Debian >>> Edition( testing branch). I tried LMDE and was not impressed. >>> >>> >>> Debian IMHO isn't meant as a desktop OS, although some people use it as >>> such and it works very well for them. For me Debian is perfect for how I >>> personally think the BBB *should* be used. Which is to say, not a desktop >>> replacement. >>> >> >> Thanks William. Ubuntu would be perfect for me if they only dropped Unity. I >> hate Unity, but I haven¹t found anything that works better. At the moment, >> I¹m using a tool that is based on QT and it crashes when I use the file >> dialog (open, save, etc). It doesn¹t crash every time, but more often than >> not. Apparently this is a known issue with QT and Ubuntu. The vendor was able >> to reproduce the error, but when they loaded QT debug symbols, they cannot >> reproduce the error. I loaded QT debug symbols and it still crashes for me. >> What a nightmare. The vendor says the tools is stable in Debian so that was >> my I was looking at Debian. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:36 PM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: William Hermans <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 at 7:32 PM >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: What OS to use? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To be sure, there is more than what little i mentioned. In the PC world >>>>> Ubuntu is known as the user friendly Debian based distro, where Debian is >>>>> light weight, known to be super solid and preferred for servers / mission >>>>> critical applications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However in the case of the BBB I think the differences are considerably >>>>> blurred by comparison. Since we're not very likely to run Compiz for a >>>>> "beautiful" desktop on our BBB's, and numerous other points. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I¹ve always used Ubuntu for my Desktop and over the last few releases, >>>> Ubuntu has become more flaky so I had heard that Debian is rock solid as >>>> you said. I started out with Debian Wheezy 7.4 and noticed that the kernel >>>> was still at V3.2 which seems really old. What I also noticed is the Debian >>>> package manager isn¹t as comprehensive as Ubuntu and I have to track down >>>> tons of third party repos to get the packages I needed. I also had issues >>>> with the nouveau driver for my Nvidia 670 card so I installed the Nvidia >>>> native driver and that seemed to work better. From what I¹ve read, the >>>> Debian Testing repo is also very reliable (better than Ubuntu) so I updated >>>> and now the kernel is v3.13. BTW, I found Gnome on Debian to be flaky (both >>>> on Wheezy and Sid). For example, updating the desktop background causes a >>>> segfault. This is a known issue and there are several suggesting >>>> workarounds, but no fixes yet. Maybe I¹m missing something here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Debian is my preferred solution for BBB, but for now I think I¹m going to >>>> stick with flaky Ubuntu for my Desktop. Anyone have any experience with >>>> MINT? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM, David Lambert <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/22/2014 07:15 PM, William Hermans wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually, the best is the one you want to use most. So, in other words, >>>>>>> you're asking a subjective question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The kernel between Ubuntu and Debian is the same, the only difference >>>>>>> is the rootfs, where Ubuntu uses upstart, while Debian uses a more >>>>>>> traditional init.d init daemon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you do not have much hands on with either, then either would >>>>>>> probably work fine for you. My own personal preference is Debian, >>>>>>> because I have had years of hands on with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also with Debian, you can use systemd. Just add the option to uEnv.txt >>>>>> as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> #Optional arguments >>>>>> optargs=init=/bin/systemd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:09 PM, rh_ <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'll have to define best better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:49:31 -0700 >>>>>>> Jerry Davis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Just got my B^3 and have heard that Angstrom is not a very good OS. >>>>>>>> > I will be using it for projects (I2C, A/D, and GPIO), with >>>>>>>> Adafruit's >>>>>>>> > GPIO python module. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Which one is the best? Ubuntu, Debian, other? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Jerry >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Extra Ham Operator: K7AZJ >>>>>>>> > Registered Linux User: 275424 >>>>>>>> > Raspberry Pi and Arduino developer >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > There are 10 kinds of people in the world: >>>>>>>> > Those who can read binary and those who can't. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>>>> > --- >>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> > Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop >>>>>>>> > receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > [email protected]. 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