I agree completely. With the understanding that there are shops which can do small custom orders at reasonable prices, the conversation shifts from BeagleBoard.orc / Circuit Co / Gerald sucks for not meeting my specific needs... to how can I build on the foundation that BeagleBoard.org et. al have laid to needs.
David On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Eric Fort <[email protected]> wrote: > While CircuitCo incurs some risk in expanding production capacity on a > board that "anyone can step in and manufacture a clone" of, and > Embedest *is* making a clone of as a second source I will still hold > out when purchasing beagleboard products for those sourced from > CircuitCo as their quality has always been consistant and of the > highest degree and their servive has been excellent. So long as > others make the same observation that does help lessen some of the > risk. > > As far as getting circa 100 boards made, I know there are shops that > will do single quantities and with that the case a quantity of 100 is > not unreasonable, just gotta shop around a bit. I may know a few > places to get you going so if interested, pm me. then again.... at a > qty of 100 > http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BB-BBLK-100/BB-BBLK-100-REVC-ND/4842545 > may be an option. > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM, David Farning <[email protected]> wrote: >> Some shops are really good at churning out small (100 to 10,000 units) >> runs of a product. They have perfected the art of retooling the line. >> >> In the current situation, it appears that our beaglebone friends are >> in the process of convincing the money people to make the investment >> to increase manufacturing capacity. The new equipment required to >> increase capacity costs serious money. >> >> When one considers that the BBB is open and anyone can step in and >> manufacture a clone and bypass then R&D costs TI and Circuit Co have >> already invested, the risks start getting pretty high. >> >> What might seemed antagonizing slow to us on the outside, requires >> serious thought and planing on the inside. It can be challenging to >> communicate this when companies work as part of communities. >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Gerald, I am just curious. Hypothetically speaking, what would it take to >>> retool to make a custom board ? I am not looking for an "IN" or anything I >>> am just curious. I'm thinking it would be a huge hassle to say the least. >>> >>> I've never worked in a PCB fab before, but worked for a CNC shop many moons >>> ago, and retooling for even the most basic part ( door lock keyways ), would >>> take a full day or two just for the setup, and a week or slightly longer to >>> shake out the bugs. Meanwhile, the company is "losing" money until things >>> are running smoothly again. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Gerald Coley <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> 100 boards is not a lot of boards. Especially when you have distributors >>>> screaming for 50,000 boards to fill their large POs.. >>>> >>>> Gerald >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:38 PM, sixvolts <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There are plenty of things that get built and sold in those kinds of >>>>> numbers, like specialized instruments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2014, sixvolts wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building a >>>>>> > run of the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, but I >>>>>> > can't seem to get anyone to respond to emails and the two people I >>>>>> > have phone numbers for are always busy. My understanding was that >>>>>> > proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the distributors if >>>>>> > you build a device around the beaglebone and have them produced for >>>>>> > you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a conference >>>>>> > last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was "launched") >>>>>> > and they indicated this was common already for the original >>>>>> > beagleboards/bones. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of some >>>>>> > of the minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the >>>>>> > emmc). >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 boards >>>>>> > made. >>>>>> >>>>>> not many manufacturers would consider 100 units much of a "run". >>>>>> that's not the sort of number that's going to get you much attention. >>>>>> just an observation. >>>>>> >>>>>> rday >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> ======================================================================== >>>>>> Robert P. J. 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