From:  William Hermans <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date:  Friday, August 15, 2014 at 10:28 AM
To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Setting up TFTP and NFS

> I do not need to read an article or google John, I've had tons of experience
> with both.
The problem I have is when you make disparaging remarks about other distros.
In reality the other distros work fine and you are only having trouble with
them because you haven¹t spent a lot of time with them. I had trouble with
Debian, but only because I¹ve spent more time with Ubuntu. I¹m sure if I
took the time to work with Debian, it would work fine for me also. If Mint
was so bad, no one would be using it; but they have a big following. It just
so happens that you and I aren¹t one of them.

Regards,
John
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From:  William Hermans <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Date:  Thursday, August 14, 2014 at 11:55 PM
>> 
>> To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Setting up TFTP and NFS
>> 
>>>> Debian might be perceived as more stable, but it uses old version of almost
>>>> every package and the core repository is way smaller than Ubuntu so you
>>>> have to hunt around for other repos to find the packages you need and then
>>>> Debian becomes less stable.
>>> 
>>> Hunt around for what packages ? In the context of the current discussion
>>> I've never had to "hunt" for anything. I've had to compile my own stuff from
>>> sources when I wanted something custom . . . Now if you want cutting edge
>>> stuff, you're almost certainly going to run into trouble no matter what
>>> distro you use. But that is not what we're talking about. We're talking
>>> about running a distro in a VM for the sole purpose of supporting the
>>> Beaglebone black.
>> The following article does a pretty fair comparison of Ubuntu vs Debian.
>> 
>> http://www.udemy.com/blog/debian-vs-ubuntu/
>> 
>> Just search google for ³Ubuntu vs Debian² and there are many more articles
>> that help explain which OS is right for you.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:55 PM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From:  Brian Anderson <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date:  Thursday, August 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM
>>>> To:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Setting up TFTP and NFS
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want my opinion, ditch Linux mint *NOW*. Personally I will not use
>>>>>> anything other than Debian for a support system to the BBB, and would
>>>>>> NEVER use X for this purpose. Especially in a VM . . .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah yeah, Linux mint is based on Ubuntu and Debian( testing ) (
>>>>>> depending on version ), but thats part of the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmmm, OK!  Would you like to enumerate why you wouldn't use Mint?  I was
>>>>> under the impression the Mint-17 is based upon Ubuntu 14.04LTS, and thus
>>>>> fairly stable.  Personally, I can't stand Unity...but YMMV.  What distro
>>>>> would you suggest?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, at the moment, all I have is my MBP laptop to support this effort.
>>>>> So, either I setup NFS on the MAC and hope for the best, or use a VM
>>>>> running some Linux.  I thought I'd give the VM approach a try as a first
>>>>> step in order to not introduce native MAC NFS vagaries into the mix.
>>>>> Probably could try that option now that I have things limping along.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you say NEVER use X, I'm assuming you mean running X windows on a dev
>>>>> env (Linux Mint)?  I'm not running X on the BBB (well, I do often use X
>>>>> forwarding to the MAC/XQuartz for stuff like (gasp) emacs, xterm, ...).
>>>>> My thought was to do dev on the MAC (straight away or via a VM) using a
>>>>> shared file system between the MAC and BBB so I didn't have to copy files
>>>>> around, nor risk loosing everything if the BBB goes toes in the air or the
>>>>> uSD craps out.
>>>> I have a MBP which I love, but I wouldn¹t use it for development for the
>>>> same reasons I wouldn¹t use Windows for development and that is because
>>>> neither support case sensitive file system. Also, OSX tools are quite old
>>>> and sometime incompatible with their GNU equivalents (options are different
>>>> more often than not compared to GNU versions), so you have to use MacPort,
>>>> HomeBrew, Fink, etc. Regarding Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, etc, there isn¹t
>>>> really much between them other than personal preferences. There are both
>>>> benefits and downsides to each, so choose one and stay with it. Truly
>>>> speaking, each one needs some work to get it stable and working the way you
>>>> want. Debian might be perceived as more stable, but it uses old version of
>>>> almost every package and the core repository is way smaller than Ubuntu so
>>>> you have to hunt around for other repos to find the packages you need and
>>>> then Debian becomes less stable. Ubuntu was a bit flaky for a while, but
>>>> 14.04 is much better and the distro I use daily.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm all ears on suggestions for a good dev setup though!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> ba
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