Tim, what you need to do is figure out what you want to do, and then start googling / reading. There is no "easy reading list" because no one thinks just like you ( or me / anyone else for that matter ).
I understand this is not very optimal, especially if you have a deadline. But that is how it works. Just be glad that today there is far more information out there than there was at the initial launch last year. For instance, I spent 2-3 weeks reading how uEnv.txt and uboot worked well enough to make custom changes of my own. *Before* I knew enough to ask Robert a specific enough question to get a good answer. Also, this answer was not a hold my hand step by step answer, it was a link to the uboot config header file for the beaglebone/ beaglebone black. Anyway, the moral of the story is this. Teach yourself to teach yourself. Or, in other words, learn how to think for yourself. I understand learning by example all to well myself ( I hate walls of text, when a proper example can explain all ). However and example does not necessarily teach you anything. The ole give a man a fish versus teach a man to fish analogy . . . On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tim Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm probably going to kick myself for getting into this, but here goes > nothing. > > Getting into *any *new community can be difficult. You're the new kid and > you don't know who's who. You wonder what's a sensible question, what's a > naive question, and what's a bloody annoying question. I think most of us > Linux newbies understand this. I'm trying to avoid asking the "bloody > annoying" questions, but I imagine I'm going do it -- with luck, not often. > > Part of the problem with figuring out how to climb the learning curve is > that there's so *much *information. Saying its like "drinking from a fire > hose" is cliched, but it feels like that sometimes. I realize that's a > problem coming into *any *new area -- learning what's important and > what's noise. I've decided -- tentatively -- that the Linux arena might be > a bit worse than most. There's a tremendous amount of activity going on, > and with that, a bit of anarchy, too. Perhaps that's typical of the entire > open-source world, which also feels a bit odd to me. ("Hey, no problem, > dude! There are parts all over this big, old garage, and anyone can build a > car!") Having said that, I don't care to live in the near dictatorship of > commercial OS communities. ("No, you can't do that. It takes arcane > training and access to Secret Things. Now go away, buy the next version, > and leave everything to the experts.") > > It doesn't seem reasonable for anyone to expect all you more experienced > folks to do a vast quantity of work for no compensation. (Feeling good > about helping doesn't buy groceries.) On the other hand, being told to RTFM > is pretty frustrating when you don't know what's a good manual or an > outdated manual or just the equivalent of a scrawl on a notepad. And yes, I > realize that knowing the difference comes with experience, too. > > Speaking only for myself, I don't expect you to hold my hand and do > everything for me. If I'm asking for too much, it's because I don't know > I've done that. So, if this isn't too much to ask for (and I'm not trying > to be snarky here), if anyone can suggest a newcomer's basic reading list > and put that on a sticky post, it sure would help. > > Cheers, Tim > > > > On Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:56:32 PM UTC-4, William Hermans wrote: > >> Funny thing is Don, If he ( assuming He because of the adversarial stance >> ) took the time to read a book on the gcc toolchain he'd have figured it >> out by now. But NOOOOOO, we must blame everyone else but ourselves, because >> "we're" always right. RIGHT ? >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Don deJuan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 09/04/2014 09:14 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> So you want to compare a $45 board with a $375 one with a $1500 >>>> development license? Come on you can't be serious. Seems logic of a common >>>> variety is lacking here. >>>> >>>> It's no ones fault but your own you're behind in the skills required >>>> for your "homework" project. Step off the fricken high horse and >>>> re-evaluate your gripes. If you can't hack the time it would take you to >>>> learn it give up on your "homework" and tell your work to get someone more >>>> capable. It's no ones job here to hold your little hand through your >>>> learning process, especially for something it sounds like your work has >>>> given you. Everything you need is at your finger tips, there are young kids >>>> figuring this out, so if you've been around since the 80's developing, this >>>> should be no major task at all to get going, so stop the complaining do >>>> some self research learn the basics and get up to speed on what you're >>>> lacking. Posts like these are just ridiculous. >>>> >>> >>> This is the typical attitude of the Linux world, "Your too stupid to >>> use my baby!" Its like some Masonic ritual, that all initiates must pass >>> through because that's what the elders had to do. I'm not asking anyone >>> here to hold my hand. I'm asking that you "elders" to organize, package, >>> and document your work for the benefit of others. This what any >>> professional would do. "Hack" is the key word here. As long as this >>> product lacks the proper tools to support it, like Linux, it will remain a >>> hackers toy. >>> >>> I agree that this is pointless. So the final answer is "No" for all >>> you lurkers out there who have the same frustrations but are afraid to >>> chime in because you will get your head bit off. To advance from a Newbie >>> to a Novice, you must first become and Expert. >>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> And your replies and statements are typical of those who ride that >>> entitled horse and want everything for free including their knowledge. Give >>> me free stuff, show me everything for free, cause I expect the same >>> experience as I got with a $1800 platform w/ license. >>> >>> Wake up dude, you're asking exactly that hold my little hand and show me >>> everything you took all this time to learn and get me up to speed in less >>> than a day all at your expense. >>> >>> You realize you have asked nothing that is not answered numerous times >>> in Google search results. Learn how to do self research and teaching. Your >>> inability to find all those "elders" whom have documented endless things >>> including THE BASICs of setting up an environment YOU'RE comfortable with >>> is not anyones fault but your own as you chose to accept your "homework". >>> Maybe your GooDorking skills are sub par and that is why you lack the >>> ability to find what YOU need. >>> >>> Stop blaming us Linux dicks for your short comings, it's not our fault >>> you got a "homework" assignment above your head that you will be getting >>> paid whatever salary you get to do this work, while riding off the the >>> knowledge off all the folks who've come before you and taken the time to do >>> it and document it already. No where did it state you would get anything >>> different than the support you get. >>> >>> Do you drive a lifted truck as well? >>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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