I have observed an interesting thing now. I have replaced the resistor as you adviced. Now I can indeed use the BeagleBone Black without battery. Now when I run on a regular power supply and the battery is in and charging, when i remove the main power supply it seems like BeagleBone Black is performing a safe shutdown (im not sure im not connected to serial debug), because it doesnt automatically go off but it takes its time turn off user leds and power led. Is this made on purpose? Why didnt he act like this when there was 10k resistor instead of 0R?

W dniu 2014-11-17 o 11:48, Gerald Coley pisze:
Replace the resistor with a wire and just short it to ground.

Gerald


On Monday, November 17, 2014, Bremenpl <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I have tested the board again and heres what I have come to:
    - Using meanwell 5V ac adapter works when the 10k resistor is NOT
    soldered to battery header. If theres resistor soldered, but there
    is no battery attached it stops working and the power led blinks
    all the time. It really seems that the power controller is trying
    to switch to the battery that is not there. After placing the
    battery everything works correct. I only home it wont get
    discharged to fast when the board is off.

    W dniu 2014-11-14 o 16:58, Gerald Coley pisze:
    And mine.

    Gerald

    On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Bremenpl <[email protected]
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        Ill get it tested, thank you. If this worked it would solve
        my problem.

        Dnia 14 listopada 2014 16:41:30 Gerald Coley
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        napisał(a):

        The output voltage level is different. When the DC is
        contented it is supposed to go to the DC input and go into
        charge mode for the battery. Measure the output voltage of
        the PMIC. If it is 5V, then it is DC in. If it is 3.7V +/-
        then it is running on the battery.

        Gerald


        On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Bremenpl
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            How can I know either it switched without taking the
            battery out?

            Dnia 14 listopada 2014 16:35:42 Gerald Coley
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napisał(a):

            Another test here would be to connect the battery and
            see if after it switches to the battery if it switches
            back to the DC input.

            Gerald


            On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Bremenpl
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            wrote:

                I understand, thank you for the info. I will make
                more attempts at monday with another bbb board. For
                now I have a 10k resistor on the TS pin because I
                intend to use the battery to. If the voltage is
                measured on the resistor ill swap it to lower value
                one. I hope ill get it working using meanwell power
                supply.

                Dnia 14 listopada 2014 16:16:30 Gerald Coley
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                napisał(a):

                Not likely. As I said we need more boards that
                fail and the power supply that is used with them.
                What I have seen is that it tries to switch to the
                battery, that is not there, for whatever reason.
                Theory is it sees a voltage drop due to the inrush
                limit on certain power supplies. I have fixed this
                on a few boards by connecting the TS signal hard
                to ground using the battery pins on the board.

                What I see when the board "does not power up" is
                the PMIC cycling on and off. You can look at the
                5V output rail of the PMIC for this condition.

                Gerald


                On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Bremenpl
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                wrote:

                    I dont agree here, and this is the weird part.
                    A cheap 5V wall plug adapter works great and a
                    certified meanwell supply does not. Can it be
                    a case related to linear/ switching power supply?

                    Dnia 14 listopada 2014 16:01:26 Gerald Coley
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                    napisał(a):

                    We are working on one if we can collect
                    enough information to confirm the issue. it
                    appears to be a power supply issue that
                    creates a condition that the TPS65217C does
                    not like. If you use a good power supply, the
                    issue is not there.


                    Gerald


                    On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Bremenpl
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                    wrote:

                        Is there a workaround for this? I thought
                        that pre charged capacitors could help
                        but in my application power to the
                        BeagleBone Black is aplied in the same
                        time as to the rest of the circuit.

                        W dniu 2014-11-14 o 15:19, Gerald Coley
                        pisze:
                        The power management IC, TPS65217C.

                        Gerald


                        On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM,
                        Bremenpl <[email protected]
                        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
                        wrote:

                            What is the exact circuit that
                            requires a fast ramp?

                            W dniu 2014-11-14 o 14:48,
                            evilwulfie pisze:
                            As Gerald has said before, check
                            the ramp up of the power supply.
                            Some of the lab supplys have slow
                            ramp ups.
                            Yes they are very stable and VERY
                            good regulation but
                            the BBB design requires a fast ramp
                            up supply.



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                            Hello there,
                            I have a very strange problem with
                            powering up BeagleBone Black (rev
                            C).... When i try to power it up
                            from some cheap AC adapter it
                            works fine, but when I connect to
                            to my labolatory power supply the
                            power LED on board is lid for a
                            second and then doesnt power up
                            the MCU and turns off intead. I
                            have connected both supplys to
                            osciloscope and they are both
                            stable, the laboratory one even
                            more. Why is the power controller
                            on the BeagleBone Black refusing
                            to power up the MCU when powered
                            from lab supply? I have no idea
                            what is this about. I would
                            aprichiate any help.
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