I think an open-order beta is reasonable, but I'd really emphasize it's beta. As in: limited production run, higher list price, and maybe even make folks "qualify" or register somehow.
Otherwise, I expect the SW issues to have dramatically less fireworks than the 'Bone, where the ARM transition to device-tree pretty much nuked most ARM development timelines for a year or so. I think you made the right call (switch to DT and the new kernel ASAP), but none of the options were all that great. With the X15, I expect more of the "conventional" Linux experience (update your kernel/os and new things start working) than what happened with the 'Bone (everything documented online about how to do something is now wrong). On 7/14/2015 11:15 AM, Jason Kridner wrote: > And for the software... > > Robert has an image that works pretty nicely on it, but there are a > lot of little features not enabled and there isn't a lot of > board-specific *software* documentation. Getting the OpenCL stuff > working out-of-the-box, the video acceleration, 2D/3D graphics > acceleration, etc., etc. is all a bit up in the air (ie., "almost > there, but not really"). We've got some software releases from TI, but > that doesn't mean its all properly integrated for use in the broader > open source community. To get there, we need to get more early boards > out to developers who can help test/debug the integration (and with > all the ringing, there are only a handful of boards today). The big > coordination question is do we have everyone wait to be able to buy > boards until the integrators have a good chance to try everything out > or do we let everyone try it at once. If we let everyone try it at > once, we really won't know if the software is ready or not. Could the > community really handle an open-order beta or is that just a recipe > for bad press? > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Gerald Coley <[email protected]> wrote: >> These boards are what we call the "Beast". Any issues that may show up will >> be based on any added SW that can bring them out. This board is very over >> designed and we have been working on it for 20 months. It has been run >> through the ringer. SW is the big question. >> >> Gerald >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Of course it isn't as good as 200k for BBB :) >>> I wonder how many issues these 6k boards will have ;) >>> >>> 2015-07-14 18:11 GMT+03:00 Gerald Coley <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Well, it depends on how you look at it. >>>> >>>> Gerald >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 6000 boards is a good deal for a pilot batch! >>>>> >>>>> 14 Июл 2015 г. 17:46 пользователь "Gerald Coley" >>>>> <[email protected]> написал: >>>>> >>>>>> Delivery exact date for production is still up in the air. TI seems to >>>>>> be unable to tell us with any level of certainty when we can get >>>>>> processors. >>>>>> We have orders for 6,000 boards from distributors. We expect more orders >>>>>> in >>>>>> the coming weeks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerald >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Robert Nelson >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Brett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> What's the news on the X15? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we know the Delivery date or Cost? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Estimates? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like, someone failed to check: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-X15#What_is_the_expected_price.3F >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First.. ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Robert Nelson >>>>>>> https://rcn-ee.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gerald >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://beagleboard.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gerald >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://beagleboard.org/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "BeagleBoard" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maximpodbereznyy >>> Company - http://www.linkedin.com/company/mentorel >>> Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/mentorel.company >>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gerald >> >> [email protected] >> http://beagleboard.org/ >> >> -- >> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "BeagleBoard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Charles Steinkuehler [email protected] -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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