we know your Too old so don't deny it. :P On 5/7/2016 10:00 PM, William Hermans wrote: > toold == tools > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:59 PM, William Hermans <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > /Someday, someone will probably come up with visual system > that's general, open source and amenable to maintaining in > git---but that day hasn't arrived yet./ > > > I think that right now, probably the toold that are closest are > the better UML apps out there. Rational Rose, and Microsoft Visio. > Where you diagram your program flow, and the app builds your app > skeleton for you. Functions, classes, and all it can based on the > data you've given it. For me personally though, this is not my own > style of coding. I prefer to write small bits at a time and test > as I go. This way, I do not spend large amounts of time debugging > code . . . > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Przemek Klosowski > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > These graphical or visual programming languages > you denigrate really do help scientists, engineers, > and other "domain experts" who aren't, and don't want > to become, "programmers" implement an idea for which > there is not, and will never be until the idea is > proven sound, a budget for "hiring real programmers". > > > In principle, yes, they are useful and enabling. In practice, > however, they have been underwhelming, and I can think of > several reasons: > > * fragmentation: they usually are designed for some > domain-specific programming (e.g. LabView for data > acquisition, GNUradio for signal processing, Simulink for > control systems, SGI AVS/Explorer for data > flow/processing, etc). This, however, means that their > audience is limited to that particular domain. > * closeness: most of graphical programming systems are > commercial and closely held by their owners > * lack of scaling: easy tasks are very easy, but as the > program size grows, they become unmanageable. It's > difficult to determine whether two visualized data flow > graphs are equivalent: the program representation and > semantics are mixed up. My favorite dis of graphical > programming: > > o Finally, we can have spaghetti code that looks like > spaghetti! > > Someday, someone will probably come up with visual system > that's general, open source and amenable to maintaining in > git---but that day hasn't arrived yet. > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/CAC%3D1GgGyRF185jpBpgf%2BugqTRsfd5S6QdV9oHXc_W55%2Bs%3D5Ygw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/CAC%3D1GgGyRF185jpBpgf%2BugqTRsfd5S6QdV9oHXc_W55%2Bs%3D5Ygw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/CALHSORomM3Ry9T6SVEYo-7NcXt25isSsMEYoD0ZwK7_Ej69-4w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/CALHSORomM3Ry9T6SVEYo-7NcXt25isSsMEYoD0ZwK7_Ej69-4w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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