yes correct. but as for powering the BBB back on you need a bit more
there than a user pressing the power button
a nice external micro works great. Remember if you have a LIPO battery
the BBB will not repower on after power is reapplied.



On 5/16/2016 12:54 PM, Gerald Coley wrote:
> Add a a battery or super CAP. When the DC voltage goes away, the
> processor gets and interrupt. When SW get interrupt unmount the Flash
> and power down.
> Invest in a real 5V power supply.
>
> Gerlad
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Micka <mickamus...@gmail.com
> <mailto:mickamus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Gerald what is your opinion on this subject ? 
>
>
>     Le lun. 16 mai 2016 21:46, evilwulfie <evilwul...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:evilwul...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>         spend 50 bux on a power supply to solve a 5 dollar problem 
>         yeah right.
>
>
>
>         On 5/16/2016 12:34 PM, John Syne wrote:
>>
>>>         On May 15, 2016, at 4:25 PM, evilwulfie
>>>         <evilwul...@gmail.com <mailto:evilwul...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         msp430 has an internal watchdog
>>         And so does the AM3358, so I’m not sure whats your point? If
>>         it is a micro-controller, it is not guaranteed to boot up
>>         successfully every time, given an unstable power supply. To
>>         start with, you need to make the power supply more
>>         predictable so that brown outs, dips and sags are not seen by
>>         the micro-controller and that power down only occurs if the
>>         input power fails for more than a specified time. Also, if
>>         you do start a shutdown, then a full power cycle is needed in
>>         a controlled manner. When input power returns, don’t boot
>>         until the input power looks reliable. 
>>
>>         This is where you need an understanding of how the power
>>         utility network operates, which includes understanding how
>>         protection operates, what an ARC (Automatic Reclosure Relays)
>>         do, etc. For example, when a large breaker trips due to a
>>         protective signal, the ARC will attempt to reclose that
>>         breaker, sometimes more than once. At night, in a storm, you
>>         will see your lights dim for a second or two; that is an ARC
>>         operation. When a transformer has water in the oil or when a
>>         insulator is arching, or a power line is arching on the
>>         ground, these all result in very strange power behavior. In
>>         summary, power failure isn’t just an on or off problem, but a
>>         multitude of more problematic cases. 
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         John
>>>
>>>         On 5/15/2016 3:37 PM, John Syne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         On May 15, 2016, at 3:14 PM, evilwulfie
>>>>>         <evilwul...@gmail.com <mailto:evilwul...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         We use an external msp430 for our intelligent watchdog
>>>>         So who or what monitors the MSP430? Since it is a
>>>>         micro-controller, it is easy to get it into a lock
>>>>         situation. All you need is a programable power supply which
>>>>         will ramp up and down the voltage into the micro-controller
>>>>         at predefined times and it will lock and become completely
>>>>         unresponsive. Granted this will rarely happen, but in our
>>>>         applications where 100K or more devices are installed, we
>>>>         cannot accept some devices locking up because of a power
>>>>         failure. 
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>         John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 5/15/2016 1:07 PM, Super Twang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I've just come across this conversation in my own search
>>>>>>         for a rock-solid, embeddable configuration for the
>>>>>>         BeagleBone Black.  I’m trying to develop an embedded
>>>>>>         controller device that needs to live behind walls, in
>>>>>>         ceilings and in other inaccessible places. ( It is for
>>>>>>         the automation of art & other electronic installations.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         From what I gather here, the BBB is not quite up to the
>>>>>>         task, without an external watchdog circuit (please
>>>>>>         correct me if I’m misreading this thread).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         @John3909: Your suggestion of the GreenPak prompted my
>>>>>>         own discovery of that tech — it looks great, esp the
>>>>>>         ecosystem of tools around the platform. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         In looking around, I found some Silego application notes
>>>>>>         that implement a hardware watchdog for MCUs.
>>>>>>          http://www.silego.com/products/352/312/AN-1058.html 
>>>>>>         This might be a useful starting point for anyone using
>>>>>>         GreenPak for a hardware watchdog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         @John3909: Does this design look like it might be a good
>>>>>>         fit for the BBB? (Not knowing how to read GreenPak
>>>>>>         internals, it is not obvious to me)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Alternately, I'm wondering in the two years that have
>>>>>>         passed since this thread started, if anyone has developed
>>>>>>         a hardware watchdog design for the BBB they'd be willing
>>>>>>         to share.  An open-source hardware watchdog for the BBB
>>>>>>         would go a long way towards ameliorating the hardware
>>>>>>         issues with the PMIC on RevC, and allow it to prosper as
>>>>>>         a base for applications where long-term reliability matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Although I’m first and foremost a software engineer, I've
>>>>>>         got some electronics chops (albeit mostly digital), but
>>>>>>         (sadly) very limited hardware design equipment
>>>>>>         (oscilloscope, etc).  [That said, I have iron, and will
>>>>>>         solder!]  I’d be happy to develop & contribute the
>>>>>>         software components for such a system (I’d envision a
>>>>>>         library + device tree overlay) if someone(s) else would
>>>>>>         like to partner up to design the hardware side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ST
>>>>>>
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