Good morning John!

Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2016 17:07:05 UTC+2 schrieb john3909:
>
> What a silly argument. It is well known that when you don’t have physical 
> security, you don’t have any security. Once you can replace the storage 
> media, you can make the hardware do whatever you want. This is true of your 
> laptop and your servers. Clearly by your argument, you haven’t even begun 
> to understand security. 
>

You're correct, I don't know much about the Linux terminologie and 
definitions. From the Linux point of view, this was evidently a silly 
argument. Do not fred. You're still leading by a two-digit score in this 
discipline.

Does that change much? No, there're still other ways to get firmware on the 
PRUSS. As a matter of fact there are solutions to use the PRUSS from user 
space. No example, because I don't want to continue in publishing "how to 
make a virus" tutorials here. If you don't believe that, just check out the 
libpruio examples. Most of them work with user privilegues, root permission 
is necessary for pinmuxing only.
 

> In addition, you should reframe from impugning a person's motivations or 
> intentions.
>

It's confusing when you talk to yourself.
 

> If you didn’t know, for stability reasons, Linux do not remove fameworks 
> unless they have been replaced by something better and in most cases the 
> new framework is backward compatible with the new framework. 
>

Obviously there're exceptions. The PRU support is neither better nor 
backward compatible to previous solutions. Oh sorry, not entirely correct: 
indeed it has better support for PRU virus activities, targeting the kernel 
space directly.
 

> No one knows how many developers are using RemoteProc/RPMSG ...
>

This is an important point! Just a few unquantifiable developers will use 
it, but in the current configuration it endangers all BB systems by default.
 

> so there is no ways that Linus or his deputies would permit the removal of 
> this framework. 
>

Is it mainline? I thought it's a TI feature. Anyhow, mainline isn't 
affected. This safety issue concerns boards with PRUSS, only.
 

> All you can do is attempt to make it better ...
>

This is making it optional, or at least making PRUSS support optional in 
that framework and disable it by default.
 

> so stop fighting a loosing battle and join me in fixing what you don’t 
> like. 
>

That's a damed good idea. Since here we've to wait for a management 
decision, why don't you use that time for fixing the issue from our March 
discussion? Or at least answer the still open question 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/ZTKntXOXGyc/GLBOQ2r5BQAJ>.

BR 

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