I am really lost here. I have a working application on the BBB platform
running Debian from a couple of years ago. It was not easy but I got it
completely running, automatically. Now I am trying for two weeks to upgrade
to Debian 9.5 and I find the i2c busses are interchanged and hard to use,
the autorun does not work anymore and it was pretty hard to get a standard
display (4D Systems) working in the first place.
To run automatically an application crontab is the wrong way, that is
clear, so I tried Services. Services are also not working. Is there any
alternative? Do I really waste my time trying to use a BBB?
I was not planning to get a PhD in programming. I am a RF user/amateur
willing to learn, but this is too hard for me.
Sorry if I sound a bit frustrated but this is where I got.
I hope some newer version of Debian will all rectify this.
Anyway, thanks for your time Jim! Many people are willing to help but in
this case it seems without result.
Best regards,
Harke



On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 18:48, Jim F <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was actually thinking you should make sure you run the exact same
> python. So if your exec start line says /usr/bin/python2.7 aceme.py then
> you should run that. Then pay attention to the comments about the
> pythonpath in my previous email.
>
> But your other descriptions are not promising. I don't think you should be
> using a systemd service to start an interactive application with a display.
> Usually systemd services are headless. Perhaps I am mistaken there. It
> certainly is not typically used that way.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 3:57 AM Harke Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> No problem, I can do that, in fact I have done that many times with the
>> same results. I can enter: cd /home/debian/eme/ and then: python aceme.py
>> or I can enter: python /home/debian/eme/aceme.py. That works in both ways
>> exactly the same. When run under the bash it gives an error saying that
>> Tkinter does not work because of a $Display error. When run under QTerminal
>> in LXQT it works fine. This is the reason that I must be sure in the
>> service file that the graphics modules are loaded first. In fact this is
>> the (only) way to start the application.
>> Conclusion: the command line: python /home/debian/eme/aceme.py works
>> perfectly. However, this is not what I need to put after: ExecStart (as far
>> as I understand....). Now I have: ExecStart=/home/debian/eme/aceme.py. And
>> I made aceme.py executable.
>> I do not know bash scripts so if necessary please help me here.
>> I hope this helps in the analysis.
>> Best regards,
>> Harke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 21:46, Jim F <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Harke,
>>>
>>> You should try running your script from the cli using the exact same
>>> command you use for the exec start line in your service file. It should
>>> give you the same errors you are seeing. That would be good. If not, the
>>> problem is that your environment doesn't match. It will probably end up
>>> being your PYTHONPATH. In that case you may want to write a short bash
>>> script which sets the path and runs your python script, and using that for
>>> your exec start command.
>>>
>>> Fundamentally your python doesn't know where the libraries you want are
>>> installed. PYTHONPATH is the environment variable which tends python where
>>> to look. Copy the one from your environment and export it in your bash
>>> script.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 2:50 PM Harke Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> login as: debian
>>>> debian@Beaglebone's password:
>>>>
>>>> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free
>>>> software;
>>>> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
>>>> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
>>>>
>>>> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
>>>> permitted by applicable law.
>>>> Last login: Wed Dec  5 18:01:26 2018 from
>>>> 2001:982:c7c1:1:a96e:5bfc:cb2a:81a7
>>>> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo systemctl status aceme
>>>> [sudo] password for debian:
>>>> ● aceme.service - to invoke aceme.py automatically
>>>>    Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/aceme.service; enabled; vendor
>>>> preset: enabled)
>>>>    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2018-12-05 19:39:44
>>>> UTC; 3min 50s ago
>>>>   Process: 986 ExecStart=/home/debian/eme/acemev35.py (code=exited,
>>>> status=1/FAILURE)
>>>>  Main PID: 986 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
>>>>
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:40 beaglebone systemd[1]: Started to invoke aceme.py
>>>> automatically.
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone python[986]: Adafruit_BBIO: version
>>>> <unknown> initialized
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]: Traceback (most recent
>>>> call last):
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]:   File
>>>> "/home/debian/eme/acemev35.py", line 21, in <module>
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]:     import serial
>>>>      # serial control module
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]: ImportError: No module
>>>> named serial
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Main process
>>>> exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Unit entered
>>>> failed state.
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Failed with
>>>> result 'exit-code'.
>>>> debian@beaglebone:~$
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> here is the status of aceme.service immediately after booting. It is
>>>> clear that serial is loaded on my system, as I use it extensively in the
>>>> same program script loaded.
>>>> login as: debian
>>>> debian@Beaglebone's password:
>>>>
>>>> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free
>>>> software;
>>>> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
>>>> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
>>>>
>>>> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
>>>> permitted by applicable law.
>>>> Last login: Wed Dec  5 18:01:26 2018 from
>>>> 2001:982:c7c1:1:a96e:5bfc:cb2a:81a7
>>>> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo systemctl status aceme
>>>> [sudo] password for debian:
>>>> ● aceme.service - to invoke aceme.py automatically
>>>>    Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/aceme.service; enabled; vendor
>>>> preset: enabled)
>>>>    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2018-12-05 19:39:44
>>>> UTC; 3min 50s ago
>>>>   Process: 986 ExecStart=/home/debian/eme/acemev35.py (code=exited,
>>>> status=1/FAILURE)
>>>>  Main PID: 986 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
>>>>
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:40 beaglebone systemd[1]: Started to invoke aceme.py
>>>> automatically.
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone python[986]: Adafruit_BBIO: version
>>>> <unknown> initialized
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]: Traceback (most recent
>>>> call last):
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]:   File
>>>> "/home/debian/eme/acemev35.py", line 21, in <module>
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]:     import serial
>>>>      # serial control module
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone acemev35.py[986]: ImportError: No module
>>>> named serial
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Main process
>>>> exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Unit entered
>>>> failed state.
>>>> Dec 05 19:39:44 beaglebone systemd[1]: aceme.service: Failed with
>>>> result 'exit-code'.
>>>> debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/aceme.service
>>>>   GNU nano 2.7.4                                File:
>>>> /etc/systemd/system/aceme.service
>>>>
>>>> [Unit]
>>>> Description=to invoke aceme.py automatically
>>>> Requires=graphical.target
>>>>
>>>> [Service]
>>>> Type=simple
>>>> ExecStart=/home/debian/eme/acemev35.py
>>>>
>>>> [Install]
>>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>>>
>>>>                                                         [ Read 11 lines
>>>> ]
>>>> The service file above......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Harke
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 05:16, Jim F <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I actually think what you need to do is something along the following
>>>>> line. I don't think the shebang line makes a difference (rather, I know
>>>>> this) if you pass the python script directly to the python binary.
>>>>>
>>>>> ExecStart=/usr/bin/python2.7 /path/to/my_file.py
>>>>>
>>>>> You should post your errors if Seth's or my comments don't get you on
>>>>> track.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:23 AM Mala Dies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay and Hello Once More,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seth here. I think (know) Jim F was on to something w/ your software
>>>>>> and setting up .service files for running on boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example: Here is another test example to try out to learn more
>>>>>> about .service files and starting files on boot on the BBB (or other
>>>>>> related bbb.io boards).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #!/usr/bin/python
>>>>>>
>>>>>> import Adafruit_BBIO.GPIO as GPIO
>>>>>> import time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #your awesome software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now...that example, like w/ what Jim F was typing out, is an example
>>>>>> not for your use. You will need to replace all the software w/ your
>>>>>> software but do use the first line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh...here is an example of that file above in Python in a .service
>>>>>> file w/ the name Pluck.py as the file name. Oh and let us call the
>>>>>> .service file Pluck.service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Unit]
>>>>>> Description=Some Amount of Understanding for Your File
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Service]
>>>>>> ExecStart=/home/debian/Pluck.py
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Install]
>>>>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now...try to run your .service file that should be saved in
>>>>>> /etc/systemd/system/ as Pluck.service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, type this command: sudo systemctl enable Pluck.service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, type this command: sudo systemctl start Pluck.service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That should do it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, please reply w/ any relative ideas that are preventing your
>>>>>> use of a file on boot, e.g. errors and why the started .service file is 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> working on boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 3:24:25 AM UTC-6, Harke Smits wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like we are close. But the error codes are persistent. I can
>>>>>>> not copy/paste but serial does not load. Whatever I place in the first 
>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>> of the python file.
>>>>>>> I tried: #!/bin/env/python and other shebangs (I learn!) but the
>>>>>>> error remains exactly the same. Btw: I use python2.x
>>>>>>> Any clue what to try next please?
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Harke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 23:18, Mala Dies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harke,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you, in the software example you created, add
>>>>>>>> #!/usr/bin/python3 to the top of your program and then use this 
>>>>>>>> command:
>>>>>>>> sudo chmod a+x YourFile.py? Now, you should be able to run your 
>>>>>>>> .service
>>>>>>>> file like before from the example I had given.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 6:28:19 AM UTC-6, Harke Smits wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your support Seth! I do not think I am running
>>>>>>>>> anything special. Just one Python script, 400 lines of my code, many
>>>>>>>>> thousends in libs, I guess. From QTerminal command line it runs 
>>>>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>>>> From within a service not.
>>>>>>>>> Looking at your proposal: do you really intend to write:
>>>>>>>>> ExecStart= /path/myprog.py instead of: ExecStart=python 
>>>>>>>>> /path/myprog.py????
>>>>>>>>> That wonders me.
>>>>>>>>>  I "sudo nano" the service file and then write it in the
>>>>>>>>> /etc/systemd/system/ folder. Nothing else I do.
>>>>>>>>> Is that sufficient?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot again.
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Harke
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 05:17, Mala Dies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Harke,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seth here. Um, are you trying to run a specific piece of software
>>>>>>>>>> only or are you trying to run multiple pieces of software?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I know you have to make a file accessible at
>>>>>>>>>> /etc/systemd/system/<your .service file here> w/ the proper 
>>>>>>>>>> instructions in
>>>>>>>>>> that .service file. Now, to make it run should be easy, i.e. if this 
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> just one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Unit]
>>>>>>>>>> Description=More of what will happen!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Service]
>>>>>>>>>> ExecStart= /your/path/to/the/.py/file.py
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Install]
>>>>>>>>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Try this!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 5:48:51 AM UTC-6, Harke Smits
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Seth,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime I think I tried just about any combination I can
>>>>>>>>>>> think of.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mostly I get the following error codes after demanding the
>>>>>>>>>>> status;
>>>>>>>>>>> Loaded....
>>>>>>>>>>> Active: failed
>>>>>>>>>>> Process: 1002 ... code = exited, status=203/EXEC
>>>>>>>>>>> Main PID: 1002.....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In short; no luck so far........
>>>>>>>>>>> I am doing something fundamentally wrong I think... Or it is
>>>>>>>>>>> just impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am lost here......
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Harke
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 22:46, Mala Dies <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you type under [Service], use only the PATH. Try that idea
>>>>>>>>>>>> first. I may be able to help out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. For instance, say I have a Python file in this dir:
>>>>>>>>>>>> /home/debian/LoveBone/. I would simply put, under the [Service] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tag,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ExecStart=/home/debain/LoveBone/MultipleIdeas.py for my PATH. Try 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that idea
>>>>>>>>>>>> and think about moving that [Unit] option for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires=graphical.target.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Try that section under your [Install] section.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:50:15 AM UTC-6, Harke Smits
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Seth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your reaction. I already digested these pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as good as I could, I am an RF engineer, not a programmer). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this does not help me much. The service file is at the correct 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope to get some clue where I am doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 30 November 2018 12:18:26 UTC+1, Mala Dies wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Again Harke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seth here. You need to put your .service files in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /etc/systemd/system/. I am pretty sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:49:16 AM UTC-6, Harke Smits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello learned group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Python application that I'd like to see start up on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot. It uses Tkinter, so it needs the graphical environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Running: python /home/debian/eme/myprog.py from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> QTerminal command line works as expected. Not outside the LXQT 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is normal I think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a service file: myprog.service like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Unit]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description=to invoke myprog automatically on boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires=graphical.target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Service]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Type=simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WorkingDirectory=/home/debian/eme/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ExecStart=python /home/debian/eme/myprog.py
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Install]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service file is located at both: /etc/systemd/system/ and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /lib/systemd/system/ as I am unsure where it actually belongs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already spend a lot of time at internet to find a solution. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only succes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stories here....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I entered the following;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo systemctl enable myprog.service: nothing special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo systemctl start myprog.service: service is not loaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo systemctl status myprog.service: error (invalid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument), inactive (dead).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both from bash or within QTerminal: behaviour is the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help me out what to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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