The board is loosely based upon the Red board. Added a second Ethernet. The 
Red is a good starting point. I have a Red that we used to evaluate. I also 
have a Blue. Not a bad board, but uses funky connectors. I do not know of a 
dev board based upon the cSIP.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:38:24 AM UTC-7 acheesehead wrote:

> Sorry. Can't share our design. Proprietary. No thermal issues as of yet, 
> but we are not running intensive software. I do plan on inspecting using a 
> thermal camera in real time sometime soon.
>
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:29 PM UTC-7 frank....@me.com wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Are you able to share the high level design of the board. How do you deal 
>> with the heat issue
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 1:47:39 AM UTC+11 acheesehead wrote:
>>
>>> We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is a 
>>> step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. Many 
>>> layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively with 
>>> the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the company 
>>> was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services that 
>>> uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage obsolescence 
>>> of the components inside of the cSIP. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 hel...@deepsoft.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Thank you Robert! 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your 
>>>> answer 
>>>> > refers to this one as well. 
>>>> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended 
>>>> development 
>>>> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product 
>>>> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does 
>>>> Octavio 
>>>> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status? 
>>>>
>>>> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about 
>>>> that. 
>>>>
>>>> > 
>>>> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or 
>>>> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both ICs 
>>>> is 
>>>> > different. 
>>>>
>>>> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if 
>>>> there is 
>>>> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip 
>>>> EEPPROM is 
>>>> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the 
>>>> image. 
>>>>
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > hel...@deepsoft.com schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um 13:54:41 
>>>> UTC+1: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > Hello everybody, 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One of 
>>>> the 
>>>> > > Beagle 
>>>> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some point 
>>>> I 
>>>> > > > couldn't figure out: 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use 
>>>> the same 
>>>> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already 
>>>> contains a 
>>>> > > bunch 
>>>> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But what 
>>>> are the 
>>>> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design 
>>>> complexity? Is it 
>>>> > > > fully software compatible on image level? 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for the 
>>>> BBB 
>>>> > > work 
>>>> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I think 
>>>> the 
>>>> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the 
>>>> support 
>>>> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for a 
>>>> > > smaller 
>>>> > > (and cheaper) PCB. 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > -- 
>>>> > > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> 
>>>> <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>> > > <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>> > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
>>>> > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services 
>>>> > > hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 
>>>> <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>> Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
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>>>>
>>>>

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