Thanks, but as tax law varies widely between jurisdictions I don't see the distinction here. I suspect (based on what I've previously read) that in more developed (Western) economies paying taxes on withdrawal is possible, but that doesn't hold in my third-world country at this point in time, we only have an income tax and a (brand-new) consumption tax. In particular I do not foresee in my lifetime any sort of inheritance tax or similar which would apply to existing/cumulative holdings.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Daniël Bos <[email protected]> wrote: > Keep in mind that if there's a difference between "tax free" (after tax, > or actually tax free) and "tax deferred" payments, it's probably a good > idea to account for those separately, since for tax deferred plans (or > portions) you'll need to pay taxes as you take money out. > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017, 10:36 Oon-Ee Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yep, that's an alternative, but is it necessary? Not sure what potential >> problems I may (or may not) face either way. >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:10 AM, yegle <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If the contribution to EPF/Socso is tax free, you can have 3 transactions >> for each payslip, two of them being Income:EmployerContribution:(EPF|Socso) >> to Assets:(EPF|Socso). >> >> I don't see a problem of duplicating names here. >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Oon-Ee Ng <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Having just switched from Gnucash to beancount I thought I may as well >> record my salary properly from the payslips I keep stashed around. >> >> My previous method was just to record the final amount I received in my >> bank account (all deductions already done), and when tax time came to just >> cross check the EA form (local name, basically a list of compensation and >> mandatory/voluntary contributions made in relation to my employment in a >> tax year) my employers gave me with the 13+ payslips I'd received in that >> tax year (including bonus/supplementary jobs). >> >> This ignored my own (and my employer's) contributions to what we call the >> EPF and Socso accounts (I think they're fairly analogous to 401k accounts >> in the US, mandatory contribution defined-contribution retirement savings >> programmes). I receive an annual report of the amounts in that account but >> just store those because I can't touch it for decades yet anyway. >> >> The more correct way which I want to do starting this financial year is >> to record my actual salary (rather than the amount which arrives in my bank >> account) and contra correctly with all amounts. Here's how things look like >> in my transaction now, copied exactly from my payslip:- >> >> 2017-01-01 * "" "January Salary" >> Assets:Banking:MyBank:SavingsAccount A MYR >> Income:Salary -B MYR >> Expenses:Tax:Y2017 C MYR >> Assets:EPF D MYR >> Assets:Socso E MYR >> Income:EmployerContribution:EPF -F MYR >> Income:EmployerContribution:Socso -G MYR >> Assets:EPF F MYR >> Assets:Socso G MYR >> >> Note that my EPF/Socso Assets account appears twice. This is because the >> law mandates that I make a contribution (first two appearances), and that >> my employer makes a contribution (last two appearances). >> >> This doesn't seem to raise any errors, but double-contribution to a >> single account seems slightly odd to me. 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