Hello, what there is to be gained in having these instruments you propose to be blessed by the Beancount project?
Anything that is somehow officially affiliated with the project would require a whatever minimum level of involvement from the project contributors, at a minimum level because the reputation of the project, and by proxy of the contributors, would be related to the content of these platforms. Because of the very low overhead, I think the official beancount communication channel should remain this mailing list. However, there are an almost infinite number of platforms on which a you can register a space dedicated to beancount users, without it to be a officially associated with the beancount project. Judging from the "pros" that have been cited for switching away from the mailing list to a forum-like solution, I think that a Stackoverflow site (or whatever they are called) could be an interesting addition to the mailing list. I may be missing the point, but, while I see alternatives to this mailing list proposed to make the life of the proponents simpler, I don't see anyone stepping up to actually produce the overwhelming quantity of content that alternative solutions would help navigate. The existing documentation, as any other human artifact, can be improved, extended, updated, and reorganized to make it more accessible. However, I don't think that having it split over multiple platforms and locations would improve it. I would be glad to review any content produced in (almost) any platform and to work to include it in the official documentation. I would like to encourage anyone that wants to share something with the other users to write it up somewhere (even as a message to the mailing list) so that it can be collaboratively reviewed and added to the documentation, in a new section if necessary. Cheers, Dan On 01/02/2021 11:01, [email protected] wrote: > IMHO, here are some of the things we could improve upon for this > community, in addition to a few that the OP suggested: > > * cut down time spent on answering FAQ from new users, while getting > new users up and running quickly > * grow collective knowledge about seemingly niche and/or specialized > areas (eg: depreciation, options trading, crypto) > * centralize an index to plugins, importers, reporters, and other code > > A wiki might well address these, and is very low-effort to setup and > test out. With the sentiment above that this should reduce dev's time > spent on answering questions, Martin, you could do as little as simply > enabling the github wiki and relying on crowdsourcing everything from > organization to content from the community. > > Another user brought up > <https://groups.google.com/g/beancount/c/jOqHyWwdTQk> Discourse earlier. > Great arguments, and he seems to have a lot of experience with it. > However, I've personally found Discourse to be distracting and painful, > especially for the low/medium level of traffic on this forum. > > On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:10:02 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > > I think a wiki (or any kind of knowledgebase) is the way to go. > Since Martin already has great writeups in Google Docs an import > should be quite easy plus linking between pages is built in rather > than just pointing to another thread to read. > > Forums tend to be "sign up" -> "ask question" -> "get answer" -> > "vanish forever". Which does not help that much in comparison to > this mailing list. > On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 2:49:44 AM UTC [email protected] wrote: > > Some people do the Discord thing. > I find it too distracting. I don't have the time. > Plus it's hit-or-miss when you show up whether the right people > happen to me there or not. > > We probably should have some way for people to add / edit a > shared KB. > We've been working with Gdocs so far, not just me, but a few > others as well. > Would it be an improvement if I enabled the Wiki on the project? > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 8:37 PM Oon-Ee Ng <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:38 AM nug get > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear community, > As a suggestion from my side, how about replacing this > mailing group by a forum? > > pros: > - potentially build a structured knowledge base that is > helpful > - user-generated how-to-content > - control notifications > - not spamming everyone with your new topic that might > be interesting only to few people > > cons: > -effort to set it up > - ...? > > @Martin, in case you don't want to do the effort, would > you allow me to set up the "official beancount forum"? > should we discuss this further? > > > Adding to the cons:- > - one additional venue for Martin in particular (and perhaps > others) to check, wasting time > - Additional internet ID/password combination, increasing > threat surface > - decreased visibility of any particular topic since forums > are by nature segregated > > This isn't to vote against the proposal, just putting more > context. I believe forums should NOT involve the dev > (especially the dev's time), as I've seen how much of a > time-suck they can be. > > A wiki would have most of the pros you list, btw, without > requiring dev time investment. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Beancount" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/CAGQ70et_RD%2BsFHDnh4kkvHQLzPmuHGVHwAzYF2qh1vOhm5MsNg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/CAGQ70et_RD%2BsFHDnh4kkvHQLzPmuHGVHwAzYF2qh1vOhm5MsNg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Beancount" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/29fd01db-5727-4063-ac88-51d8a6a3bcefn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/29fd01db-5727-4063-ac88-51d8a6a3bcefn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Beancount" group. 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