Hi,
I'm trying to think through implementation of lots and various cost bases 
in PTA,[1] and thought I would check with this mailing list.
  
Specifically, I'm wondering whether the @ vs. {} difference in Beancount 
can be collapsed to the difference between average cost basis (ACB), with 
gains/losses unreported vs. ACB / FIFO / LIFO / etc., with gains/losses 
reported.

I understand from the Beancount docs that Beancount distinguishes between 
currency conversions (using @) and commodity conversions held at cost 
(using {}).  In the former, the cost data is not maintained internally by 
Beancount, whereas it is with the latter.

The first is done usually in case of currency conversions when you're 
making a purchase in EUR online but your base currency is INR.  These are 
one-time transactions and in one direction (purchase of EUR for INR, 
without any sale of EUR for INR).  So you would use the @ syntax.

It can also be employed when you're travelling and are converting from INR 
to EUR, but then also converting the remaining EUR to INR after the trip is 
over.  (You could also modify this example to imagine that you've earned a 
little bit of EUR by waiting tables, so that the amount of EUR you're 
converting back to INR matches the amount of EUR you purchased at the 
beginning of the trip.) So in this case, even though there is both purchase 
and sale, you're not interested in the capital gains/losses that result 
from the sale of the EUR to convert it into INR. So there's no need to 
track cost.  So you would use the @ syntax.

However, say you're a currency trader, you would need to track cost, since 
you're interested in the capital gains.  So you would use the {} syntax 
instead. You would also need to use whatever lot identification the tax 
authorities require (FIFO, etc.).

So it seems to me that the distinction isn't really between "currencies" 
and other commodities, but between conversions for investment/trading with 
gains, where the lots needs to be tracked versus conversions for payments 
which doesn't require using of lots.

If lots are not used, and all the purchases are lumped together, but the 
cost is still tracked, then that automatically becomes "average cost 
basis".  So, "currency conversion" could also be seen as "ACB" where the 
software doesn't report the gains/losses vs. "conversions held at cost" 
where the software implements FIFO/ACB/etc., and reports the gains/losses.

Does this sound correct?  If not, what am I misunderstanding?

For context, I thought I would add: For the past many years, I've been 
using trading accounts for journal entries involving conversions, and for 
reporting of unrealized gains/losses. For realized gains/losses, my MF 
asset management companies / stock broker provide me figures that I plug in 
to my journals. I'm using hledger, which currently doesn't have support for 
lots, but is looking to add such support.

Regards,
Pranesh

 [1]: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8IJ_7fMHZ75XFPocMokLxVZczAhrBRBVN9uMhQFCZ4/edit#

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