On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 3:55 AM Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I don't understand your question.
>
> Sorry for being unclear. Let me try to rephrase it.
>
> This transaction:
>
> 2021-01-07 * "Coinbase Earn" "Coinbase Earn Airdrop $XLM" #airdrop
> utc: "2021-01-07T05:34:19Z"
> Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM 29.1631914 XLM { 0 USD } @
> 0.28 USD; @@ 8.17 USD
> ; ↑↑↑ 29.16 units of XLM, which are worth 8.17 USD, but have a (fictive)
> cost basis of 0 USD
> Income:Crypto:Airdrops
>
> reflects basically a gift of 29.16 units of XLM, which are worth 8.17 USD.
> So, I'd like to post an Income of 8.17.
>
> At the same time I need to post the 29.16 units of XLM into my inventory
> as a lot with a cost basis of 0 USD. So, that when I sell these 29.16 units
> of XLM at some point in the future the whole amount that I'd get in return
> for selling it, would count as gain/income.
>
> E.g. If the market price was 1 USD when I'd sell, I'd have an
> income/taxable gain of 29.16 USD. If the price were 0.1 USD when I'd sell,
> I'd have an income/taxable gain of 2.91 USD.
>
> Does this make it any clearer?
>
Yes, but it seems not the best approach to me. Say the shares of XLM are
worth 0.28014 (so 8.17 for the full position of 29.16 XLM).
If you sold them right after receiving the gift, say, also at 8.17, with
your method you'd be recognizing a gain of 2 x 8.17$, which is incorrect.
A better way would be to use 0.28015 as the cost basis and recognize the
gain/loss against that.
For example, if you sold them at 0.20, you'd be recognizing a loss $2.34.
So you'd have received a gift of $8.17 and lost $2.34. You'd be left with a
cash position of $5.83 in some asset account (e.g.
Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:Cash).
Your income account would show correctly -5.83 (if you used the same
account for the gift as the P/L account).
If you used different accounts for gift and P/L - which I'd recommend -
you'd show the total amount of gifts and P/L on realizations of those, so
-8.17 in the gift account and a loss of 2.34 in the P/L account. Sum the
two and you've got the total money from those gifts including realized P/Ls.
>
> [email protected] schrieb am Sonntag, 30. Oktober 2022 um 03:22:12 UTC+1:
>
>> Except for salary income, I rarely insert anything for taxes until the
>> EOY.
>>
>> > Logically, there isn't any income. Is there any way to post a lot with
>> a cost basis of 0 while accounting for the factual income of 8.17 USD?
>>
>> I don't understand your question.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 3:09 PM Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in the crypto-space airdrops are a common ting. That is when someone
>>> (more or less) gifts you crypto assets. This can be, e.g., part of a
>>> promotion.
>>>
>>> Regarding the accounting of this there are two things to consider:
>>>
>>> 1. Someone just gifted you money. I'd account that as some sort of
>>> income.
>>> 2. You might need to pay taxes on this gift.
>>>
>>> Tax-wise an airdrop itself isn't taxed. It is assumed that I "*bought*"
>>> the asset at a cost basis of 0. If I sell the asset later, everything I'll
>>> receive in exchange for the airdropped asset counts as gain—as I can't
>>> deduct any costs. In other words: The taxation of the airdrop is delayed to
>>> the time when I sell the airdropped asset. And at that point the airdrop
>>> gets fully taxed at the current asset price.
>>>
>>> If you want to account only for (1) *or* (2) this is fairly easy. But
>>> I'd like to account for both. This is where my problems come:
>>>
>>>
>>> - For tax-purposes I need to post a transaction leg with a cost
>>> basis of 0
>>> - For income tracking purposes I need to post a transaction with a
>>> cost basis of whatever the airdropped asset is priced at the moment of
>>> the
>>> airdrop
>>>
>>> It seems that accounting for the actual income and for tax purposes is
>>> mutually exclusive:
>>>
>>>
>>> option "booking_method" "FIFO"
>>> option "operating_currency" "USD"
>>> plugin "beancount.plugins.auto_accounts"
>>>
>>> 2021-01-07 * "Coinbase Earn" "Coinbase Earn Airdrop $XLM" #airdrop
>>> utc: "2021-01-07T05:34:19Z"
>>> Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM 29.1631914 XLM { 0 USD }
>>> @ 0.28 USD; @@ 8.17 USD
>>> Income:Crypto:Airdrops
>>>
>>> This example creates this transaction context:
>>>
>>> ** Transaction Id --------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hash:01ed10463f3915cbc81b0999886944ab
>>> Location: Test.Airdrop.bean:6
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Balances before transaction --------------------------------
>>>
>>> Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM
>>>
>>> Income:Crypto:Airdrops
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Unbooked Transaction --------------------------------
>>>
>>> 2021-01-07 * "Coinbase Earn" "Coinbase Earn Airdrop $XLM" #airdrop
>>> utc: "2021-01-07T05:34:19Z"
>>> Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM 29.1631914 XLM {0 USD} @ 0.28 USD
>>> Income:Crypto:Airdrops
>>>
>>> ** Transaction --------------------------------
>>>
>>> 2021-01-07 * "Coinbase Earn" "Coinbase Earn Airdrop $XLM" #airdrop
>>> utc: "2021-01-07T05:34:19Z"
>>> Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM 29.1631914 XLM {0.00 USD, 2021-01-07}
>>> @ 0.28 USD ; 0.0000000 USD
>>>
>>> ** Residual and Tolerances --------------------------------
>>>
>>> Tolerances: XLM=5E-8
>>>
>>> ** Balances after transaction --------------------------------
>>>
>>> * Assets:Crypto:CEX:Coinbase:XLM 29.1631914 XLM {0 USD,
>>> 2021-01-07}
>>>
>>> Income:Crypto:Airdrops
>>>
>>>
>>> Logically, there isn't any income. Is there any way to post a lot with a
>>> cost basis of 0 while accounting for the factual income of 8.17 USD?
>>>
>>> I guess, I want to eat the cake and have it (accounting wise). Is that
>>> possible?
>>>
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