or i can try to use dividend_accounts parameter (cause dividend is same as expense, just differ in sign (plus/minus))
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 7:15:11 PM UTC-4 Bman Q wrote: > "Depends how you want to account for its P/L, i.e. do you have a way to > group all the dividends and fees for a particular position/trade? See > https://github.com/beancount/beangrow to learn more about this idea." > -, Beangrow is one of the reasons i am asking :) > > I saw in beangrow docs example you are using 'general' (not separate per > stock) expense account: > > "Assets:US:BTrade:Cash > Assets:US:BTrade:VTI > *Expenses:Financial:Commissions* > Income:US:BTrade:VTI:Dividend" > > But as i understand it worked cause this expense account was in > transactions containing asset accounts (and thus beangrow was able to find > it) > > In the case of ADR management fee transaction is > DATE Description > Cash Account > Expense Account > (no asset account here) > > Then to make it work with beangrow i should do > > investment { > asset_account: "Assets:Investing:CSchwab:TCEHY" > cash_accounts: " Assets:Investing:CSchwab:CASH" > *expense_accounts: "Expenses:Investing:CSchwab:TCEHY:Fees"* > } > > Is this right? (In docs i didn't see *expense_accounts *parameter, only > asset_account, cash_accounts, dividend_accounts and matching_accounts > parameters.) > > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 9:43:59 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > >> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 1:07:15 PM UTC-4 Bman Q wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone! As always thank you to Martin and community for amazing >>>> tool, i love beancount! And as always i have new questions :) This time on >>>> investing transactions side: >>>> >>>> I have following investing accounts: >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash USD >>>> Income:Investing:CSchwab:Interest USD >>>> Income:Investing:CSchwab:Gains USD >>>> Expenses:Investing:CSchwab:Fees USD >>>> >>>> and stock accounts: >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:FB FB >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:SQ SQ >>>> .... >>>> >>>> With them i cover simple transactions (buy / sell stocks, and interest) >>>> >>>> But now i encountered a bit more tricky ones, what accounts do i need >>>> for them and how transactions should look like? >>>> >>>> 1. Unissued Rights Redemption >>>> 2022-04-13 * "Unissued Rights Redemption; TENCENT HOLDINGS FUNSPONSORED >>>> ADR 1 ADR REPS 1 ORD SHS" >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash 787.48 USD >>>> >>> >> Book this against Income:Investing:CSchwab:TCEHY:Dividend or even make a >> new category for it if it's taxed differently (I don't know). >> >> >> 2. ADR management fee >>>> 2022-06-21 * "ADR Mgmt Fee; TENCENT HOLDINGS FUNSPONSORED ADR 1 ADR >>>> REPS 1 ORD SHS" >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash -14.17 USD >>>> (should i write down this fee in Expenses:Investing:CSchwab:Fees or >>>> should i create Expenses:Investing:CSchwab:TCEHY:Fees ? ) >>>> >>> >> Depends how you want to account for its P/L, i.e. do you have a way to >> group all the dividends and fees for a particular position/trade? See >> https://github.com/beancount/beangrow to learn more about this idea. >> >> >> >>> >>>> 3. Qualified Dividend >>>> 2022-06-21 * "Qualified Dividend; TENCENT HOLDINGS FUNSPONSORED ADR 1 >>>> ADR REPS 1 ORD SHS" >>>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash 118.07 USD >>>> >>> >> Clearly book against Income:Investing:CSchwab:TCEHY:Dividend >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 4:04 PM Bman Q <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> 4. Also is it safe (acceptable practice) to combine transactions? >>> Example here i bought with buy limit order, and there are 2 transactions >>> with same price (24.70) >>> >>> 2022-08-29 * "Buy; ACT GROUP INC" >>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:ACT 25 ACT {24.70 USD, 2022-08-29} >>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash -617.50 USD >>> >>> 2022-08-29 * "Buy; ACT GROUP INC" >>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:ACT 987 ACT {24.70 USD, 2022-08-29} >>> Assets:Investing:CSchwab:Cash -24378.90 USD >>> >>> Can i combine them in one? I have similar example where buy limit order >>> was spread into 4 transactions... want to keep things tidy. >>> >> >> Up to you really. >> >> Personally I'd do this: if you actually initiated two sets of >> instructions, I'd keep them separate. >> Especially if they have distinct order/transaction ids you can use as >> links. >> However, if the execution was broken in multiple fills and the broker >> download provided them separately, I'd consider grouping them together. >> >> >> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Beancount" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/b97485fc-c7ba-4997-bf57-eff9fc88d559n%40googlegroups.com.
