On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:19 AM CD <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you.  I think I have the CoinbaseImporter set up properly but it is
> saying it can't import beangulp.
>

python package management is, IMHO, a complete disaster.  also IMHO
beancount has lingering out of date documentation files, as well as
multiple simultaneous versions, that make it a bit challenging to get a
working setup.

that said, magicbeans is probably even more finicky and harder to get
running :-D

if you feel like trying it out, I have a draft of some install and
configuration instructions here:
https://github.com/ericaltendorf/magicbeans/pull/1/commits/b81deb54f66d39ddd3f1b975ae0b08241c30e413



>
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 1:04:42 PM UTC-5 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> If you're new to both Beancount and Python, it could be ambitious to get
>> deep into this experimental package :)  But no harm in giving it a try!
>>
>> I will write some installation/getting-started docs on github and then
>> get back to you.  Thanks for the interest!
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:28 AM CDT <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm relatively new to Python scripting and have been hand entering
>>> things while I'm learning, but this looks very interesting considering the
>>> volume of transactions that can occur with cryptos when the bull market
>>> heats up.
>>>
>>> How do I install this?  (I'm using Windows 11 but I can use pip on
>>> command line)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 6:23:37 PM UTC-5 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's 2024, so, time to dust off Magicbeans and prepare 2023 taxes --
>>>> hope folks don't mind me bumping this thread.  If anyone else is interested
>>>> in using Beancount to track crypto transactions, take a look below and if
>>>> you're willing to beta-test and help develop, feel free to reach out to me.
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> eric
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:49 AM Chary Chary <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for clarification
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 5:30:39 PM UTC+1 [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No worries.  I suspect that a lot of crypto traders/investors fall
>>>>>> into these categories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Casual users who make minimal trades on one or two exchanges.
>>>>>> These are probably adequately served by existing commercial offerings 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> cointracker.io etc.
>>>>>> - Professional traders who already have some other professional
>>>>>> commercial trade recording/reporting software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For people in between, who are doing something more complex (multiple
>>>>>> exchanges, offline wallets, mining income, large numbers of transactions 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> lots) but are not professional traders, I suspect that probably most tax
>>>>>> returns are full of errors that neither the filers nor the IRS are 
>>>>>> readily
>>>>>> able to untangle.  If the amounts are low, then it's not worth either of
>>>>>> their time.  If the amounts are large, I am not sure.  I talked to a tax
>>>>>> preparer, asking how one would verify the numbers, and he said that
>>>>>> probably you'd have to engage a mid-to-large accounting firm and hand 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> your raw data -- not sure how they would analyze it.  He also said that
>>>>>> with the IRS it would probably be a bit hit and miss how an auditor would
>>>>>> handle or analyze it -- they probably wouldn't be reading one's Python
>>>>>> code, no :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My goal with Magicbeans was to generate PDF reports which lay out the
>>>>>> lots in both inventories and transactions such that one could actually
>>>>>> manually match everything up, even if it would be tedious.  The goal was 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be able to walk into an IRS office with that report and be able to 
>>>>>> justify
>>>>>> the cap gains/losses of any sale someone questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 1:11 PM Chary Chary <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know this is an offtopic, but I am just wondering: if it takes
>>>>>>> that much efforts plus python programming skills to file a tax return, 
>>>>>>> then:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - How do other people (mortals) do it?
>>>>>>>    - How on the earth someone is able to verify it? One can't
>>>>>>>    imagine a tax officer debugging a Python code?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 8:57:27 PM UTC+2
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recently filed my 2022 tax return using Magicbeans
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/ericaltendorf/magicbeans/> to do detailed lot
>>>>>>>> tracking and capital gains/losses reporting for my crypto assets.
>>>>>>>> Magicbeans is a set of tools (importers and report generation tools) 
>>>>>>>> built
>>>>>>>> around Beancount.  I wrote it because I was not satisfied with the 
>>>>>>>> accuracy
>>>>>>>> or transparency of existing commercial services for crypto tax 
>>>>>>>> reporting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although I was confident enough in the numbers to file my return, I
>>>>>>>> am equally confident there's a lot of latent issues in the software.  
>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>> looking for folks who (1) are interested in better tools for crypto
>>>>>>>> transaction tracking, (2) are willing to beta-test and debug some rough
>>>>>>>> software, and (3) are skilled enough devs (Python) to also contribute 
>>>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope to hear from someone out there... :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --eric
>>>>>>>>
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