That would help a great deal. As a lurker (mostly to view code and to see how folks think through problems) and definitely a true "beginner," one thing that is very obvious is that there is a significant variance in what folks believe is a "beginner." When I read "oh, yeah yesterday I was developing a database application embedded in a web page and I had a problem implementing "x". That's a bit like teaching the alphabet beginning with the letter "S". Now don't get me wrong, I love that stuff and its not anybody's "job" to use the list to teach. But in a beginner's list I just thought some of the more basic things would be talked about. I'd love to see you do this. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: fliptop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:03 AM To: Teresa Raymond Cc: beginnerperllist Subject: tutorial proposition (was: Re: Succinct Code, Use of my $var and global vs local) Teresa Raymond wrote: > > This snippet of code works as it is but I was wondering if there was > a way to rewrite it more succinctly. I am also not using my $var="" after a few days of reading the code samples being posted here, i have been wondering how i can help perl beginners with advice on making their code more succinct, handling the 'my' variable issue, etc. i have been toying with the idea of creating a step-by-step tutorial on how i develop a complete application, beginning with analyzing the problem right on through to putting the code into production. i'd use a simple sample app, maybe something like an addressbook. does anyone feel this would be helpful? i'd put in the time only if other beginners thought it would be of use.