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Today's Topics:
1. ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming (Rustom Mody)
2. Re: ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming (7stud)
3. Re: ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming (mukesh tiwari)
4. Re: ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming
(Michael Peternell)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 22:06:33 +0530
From: Rustom Mody <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
Programming
To: beginners <[email protected]>
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We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
It is our contribution towards getting Haskell and FP up on MOOC (Massive
Open Online Course).
The aim is:
1. To use Haskell as medium to understand and showcase functional
programming
2. To show how using Haskell *as a thinking language* can change the
quality of programming in more conventional *coding languages* -- eg python.
It has been designed in the spirit of using haskell to play with ideas, and
then idiomatically refine them for any implementation contexts including
Haskell.
Therefore, in this course (classical) typeful functional programming will
take precedence over (modern) 'type hackery'. Some aspects of this shift of
emphasis is [3].
Also some paradigm/philosophy questions, eg why much-hyped paradigms like
OOP are not such a good idea [4]
Functional Programming has never had it so good as today!
Books like RWH, implementations like ghc, and of course the Haskell
language itself are all part of this 'Never Before.'
spj has often joked about 'avoiding success at all costs'. This may be
somewhat tongue-in-cheek yet is also serious.
As Haskell enters the mainstream and begins to compete head-on-head with C,
C++, Java, Python etc, we need to separate out these aspects:
1. Mastering Haskell is harder today than when FP was an academic passtime
2. *Haskell-the-technology* is obscuring the possibilities and reach of *
Haskell-for-CS
*3. The elegant computer science (FP) + powerful modern technology (ghc) is
obscuring the questions of paradigm and perspective that marked the
inception of the field in an earlier era [1]
One of the main intentions behind this course is to take cognizance of
these facts and work on the Haskell-learning-curve to make it accessible to
people with a wide swathe of interests/backgrounds.
So?
Those who are called to the above, Please Vote!
And those who are not called, also please vote [After all the choice is
between this Haskell/FP course and none <wink> ]
Rusi
-----------------------------
[1] Think of AI ? Lisp, Denotational Semantics ? ML, Notation as a tool for
thought ? APL etc
[2]
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
[3] A shopping-list of topics in 'classic FP' :
http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html
Recursion as a wider concept than just recursive functions
http://blog.languager.org/2012/05/recursion-pervasive-in-cs.html
[4] Folly of OOP
http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 15:22:43 -0400
From: "7stud" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
Programming
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I don't get it. Is that a class being offered online? Is it free? When is it
offered?
-----Original Message-----
From: "Rustom Mody" [[email protected]]
Date: 05/19/2013 12:37 PM
To: "beginners" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming
We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
It? is our contribution towards getting Haskell and FP up on MOOC (Massive Open
Online Course).
The aim is:
1. To use Haskell as medium to understand and showcase functional programming
2. To show how using Haskell as a thinking language can change the quality of
programming in more conventional coding languages -- eg python.
It has been designed in the spirit of using haskell to play with ideas, and
then idiomatically refine them for any implementation contexts including
Haskell.
Therefore, in this course (classical) typeful functional programming will take
precedence over (modern) type hackery. Some aspects of this shift of emphasis
is [3].
Also some paradigm/philosophy questions, eg why much-hyped paradigms like OOP
are not such a good idea [4]
Functional Programming has never had it so good as today!
Books like RWH, implementations like ghc, and of course the Haskell language
itself are all part of this Never Before.
spj has often joked about avoiding success at all costs.? This may be somewhat
tongue-in-cheek yet is also serious.
As Haskell enters the mainstream and begins to compete head-on-head with C,
C++, Java, Python etc, we need to separate out these aspects:
1. Mastering Haskell is harder today than when FP was an academic passtime
2. Haskell-the-technology is obscuring the possibilities and reach of
Haskell-for-CS
3. The elegant computer science (FP) + powerful modern technology (ghc) is
obscuring the questions of paradigm and perspective that marked the inception
of the field in an earlier era [1]
One of the main intentions behind this course is to take cognizance of these
facts and work on the Haskell-learning-curve to make it accessible to people
with a wide swathe of interests/backgrounds.
So?
Those who are called to the above, Please Vote!
And those who are not called, also please vote [After all the choice is between
this Haskell/FP course and none <wink> ]
Rusi
-----------------------------
[1] Think of AI ? Lisp, Denotational Semantics ? ML, Notation as a tool for
thought ? APL etc
[2]
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
[3] A shopping-list of topics in classic FP :
http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html
???? Recursion as a wider concept than just recursive functions
http://blog.languager.org/2012/05/recursion-pervasive-in-cs.html
[4] Folly of OOP
http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 00:59:10 +0530
From: mukesh tiwari <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
Programming
To: The Haskell-Beginners Mailing List - Discussion of primarily
beginner-level topics related to Haskell <[email protected]>
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I think it will be offered if it gets enough votes.
We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
-Mukesh
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:52 AM, 7stud <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't get it. Is that a class being offered online? Is it free? When
> is it offered?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rustom Mody" [[email protected]]
> Date: 05/19/2013 12:37 PM
> To: "beginners" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming
>
> We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
>
> https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
> which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
>
> It is our contribution towards getting Haskell and FP up on MOOC (Massive
> Open Online Course).
>
> The aim is:
> 1. To use Haskell as medium to understand and showcase functional
> programming
> 2. To show how using Haskell as a thinking language can change the quality
> of programming in more conventional coding languages -- eg python.
>
> It has been designed in the spirit of using haskell to play with ideas,
> and then idiomatically refine them for any implementation contexts
> including Haskell.
> Therefore, in this course (classical) typeful functional programming will
> take precedence over (modern) type hackery. Some aspects of this shift of
> emphasis is [3].
> Also some paradigm/philosophy questions, eg why much-hyped paradigms like
> OOP are not such a good idea [4]
>
> Functional Programming has never had it so good as today!
> Books like RWH, implementations like ghc, and of course the Haskell
> language itself are all part of this Never Before.
>
> spj has often joked about avoiding success at all costs. This may be
> somewhat tongue-in-cheek yet is also serious.
> As Haskell enters the mainstream and begins to compete head-on-head with
> C, C++, Java, Python etc, we need to separate out these aspects:
>
> 1. Mastering Haskell is harder today than when FP was an academic passtime
> 2. Haskell-the-technology is obscuring the possibilities and reach of
> Haskell-for-CS
> 3. The elegant computer science (FP) + powerful modern technology (ghc)
> is obscuring the questions of paradigm and perspective that marked the
> inception of the field in an earlier era [1]
>
> One of the main intentions behind this course is to take cognizance of
> these facts and work on the Haskell-learning-curve to make it accessible
> to people with a wide swathe of interests/backgrounds.
>
> So?
> Those who are called to the above, Please Vote!
> And those who are not called, also please vote [After all the choice is
> between this Haskell/FP course and none <wink> ]
>
> Rusi
> -----------------------------
> [1] Think of AI ? Lisp, Denotational Semantics ? ML, Notation as a tool
> for thought ? APL etc
> [2]
> https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
> [3] A shopping-list of topics in classic FP :
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html
> Recursion as a wider concept than just recursive functions
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/05/recursion-pervasive-in-cs.html
> [4] Folly of OOP
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
>
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 21:37:13 +0200
From: Michael Peternell <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
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The topic seems interesting to me!
But I would also like to know a bit more about the mundane facts of this
course...
When will it be?
Where will it be?
How many people can be in the course?
What type of course is it?
How many votes are "enough" votes?
Why do you care about votes anyways?
Will it be free or how much will it cost?
-Michael
Am 19.05.2013 um 21:29 schrieb mukesh tiwari <[email protected]>:
>
> I think it will be offered if it gets enough votes.
>
> We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
> https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
> which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
>
> -Mukesh
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:52 AM, 7stud <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't get it. Is that a class being offered online? Is it free? When is
> it offered?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rustom Mody" [[email protected]]
> Date: 05/19/2013 12:37 PM
> To: "beginners" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming
>
> We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
> https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
> which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
>
> It is our contribution towards getting Haskell and FP up on MOOC (Massive
> Open Online Course).
>
> The aim is:
> 1. To use Haskell as medium to understand and showcase functional programming
> 2. To show how using Haskell as a thinking language can change the quality of
> programming in more conventional coding languages -- eg python.
>
> It has been designed in the spirit of using haskell to play with ideas, and
> then idiomatically refine them for any implementation contexts including
> Haskell.
> Therefore, in this course (classical) typeful functional programming will
> take precedence over (modern) type hackery. Some aspects of this shift of
> emphasis is [3].
> Also some paradigm/philosophy questions, eg why much-hyped paradigms like OOP
> are not such a good idea [4]
>
> Functional Programming has never had it so good as today!
> Books like RWH, implementations like ghc, and of course the Haskell language
> itself are all part of this Never Before.
>
> spj has often joked about avoiding success at all costs. This may be
> somewhat tongue-in-cheek yet is also serious.
> As Haskell enters the mainstream and begins to compete head-on-head with C,
> C++, Java, Python etc, we need to separate out these aspects:
>
> 1. Mastering Haskell is harder today than when FP was an academic passtime
> 2. Haskell-the-technology is obscuring the possibilities and reach of
> Haskell-for-CS
> 3. The elegant computer science (FP) + powerful modern technology (ghc) is
> obscuring the questions of paradigm and perspective that marked the
> inception of the field in an earlier era [1]
>
> One of the main intentions behind this course is to take cognizance of
> these facts and work on the Haskell-learning-curve to make it accessible to
> people with a wide swathe of interests/backgrounds.
>
> So?
> Those who are called to the above, Please Vote!
> And those who are not called, also please vote [After all the choice is
> between this Haskell/FP course and none <wink> ]
>
> Rusi
> -----------------------------
> [1] Think of AI ? Lisp, Denotational Semantics ? ML, Notation as a tool for
> thought ? APL etc
> [2]
> https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
> [3] A shopping-list of topics in classic FP :
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html
> Recursion as a wider concept than just recursive functions
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/05/recursion-pervasive-in-cs.html
> [4] Folly of OOP
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>
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