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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:24:57 +0000
From: emacstheviking <[email protected]>
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        beginner-level topics related to Haskell <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] LTS is good but...
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Well, I have port installed 7.8.3 as it needs an existing GHC, then I
unpacked 7.8.4 from tarball and...............

checking whether bootstrap compiler is affected by bug 9439... You are
using a new version of LLVM that hasn't been tested yet!
We will try though...

/var/folders/15/fqzwrj1n32gfgx8yy5t8v1bc0000gq/T/ghc7339_0/ghc7339_6.s:3:2:
     error: unknown directive
            .macosx_version_min 10, 0
            ^

<no location info>:
    Error running clang! you need clang installed to use theLLVM backend
    (or GHC tried to execute clang incorrectly)
failed to compile

Is that a problem??? It seems to have run the configure script just fine
for all of that.


On 4 March 2015 at 10:45, emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am a 30+ years hacker Boris, building from source might just tempt me
> still!! HAHAHA
> My machine is now "clean" so I will decide how to play it!
>
> Thanks again everybody.
>
>
> On 4 March 2015 at 09:31, Boris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Little addition to what Michael already sent you.
>>
>> To get ?the latest? you should build from sources :D
>>
>> But in case it?s ok for you to have ghc 7.8.3 and you don?t want to 
>> ./configure;
>> make; make install, you might also check this installation script on
>> github <https://github.com/yogsototh/install-haskell>.
>>
>>
>>
>> On March 4, 2015 at 11:28:50, Michael Snoyman ([email protected])
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd recommend looking at:
>>
>> http://www.stackage.org/install#mac-os-x
>>  https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell/blob/master/README.md#mac-os-x
>>
>> I don't generally recommend using the platform installer, it ends up
>> pegging libraries to old versions which causes dependency problems, or in
>> some cases have known bugs.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed Michael!
>>>
>>> I am currently wiping all Mac Ports packages and I will perform a clean
>>> up of /Library/Haskell etc.
>>>
>>> What is the *preferred* way to get the lastest for OSX: Using homebrew,
>>> macports or the Haskell Platform. I *used* to use the platform installer
>>> but for some reason (cabal I expect!) I started trying out other ways...
>>>
>>> I think actually I will go the platform packager again...
>>>
>>> On 4 March 2015 at 09:13, Michael Snoyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't really explain the details of what's going on here. It seems
>>>> that in some cases different versions of the executables are being found,
>>>> but I don't know why. Wiping out your sandbox (cabal sandbox delete) and
>>>> starting over may be sufficient to recover.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:11 AM emacstheviking <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  As requested,
>>>>>
>>>>> iMac:~ vosabristol$ ghc --version
>>>>> The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 7.8.3
>>>>>
>>>>> which ghc
>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ghc
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm.... it shows a macports instsallation of GHC... but I am sure
>>>>> that's how I git it... I *used* to use the OSX installation package but I
>>>>> thought a clean start using MacPorts would somehow change the mood...
>>>>>
>>>>>  iMac:~ vosabristol$ cabal --version
>>>>> cabal-install version 1.16.0.2
>>>>> using version 1.16.0 of the Cabal library
>>>>>
>>>>>  iMac:~ vosabristol$ which cabal
>>>>> /usr/bin/cabal
>>>>>
>>>>> So... there is a possible case for *once again* performing a complete
>>>>> and utter removal of Haskell and its partners in crime and doing a fresh
>>>>> installation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of frustration I built OCaml and OPAM from sources last night but
>>>>> I'd still like to go with GHC!
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 March 2015 at 20:43, Michael Snoyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny that there's an issue being discussed in the cabal issue
>>>>>> tracker right now[1] similar to this. But the report you're giving
>>>>>> here is particularly strange. Cabal-1.16 implies that you're using GHC 
>>>>>> 7.6,
>>>>>> which is supported by the claim that base 4.7 isn't available. I'd
>>>>>> recommend starting off with running the following commands and pasting 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> output:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ghc --version
>>>>>> which ghc
>>>>>> cabal --version
>>>>>> which cabal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/2438
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:21 PM emacstheviking <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Forgot to add that somehow, despite the upgrade, my cabal version
>>>>>>> has gone backwards from 1.20.0.1 to 1.16.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WTF?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 March 2015 at 20:19, emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I started an OpenGL project within an LTS sandbox as guided on
>>>>>>>> another post and, somewhat foolishly it would see, I did a "cabal 
>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>> cabal-install" when prompted that a new version was available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The very next time I tried to work on my code.... I got this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  bash-3.2$ pwd
>>>>>>>> /Users/seancharles/Documents/Coding/haskell/lts1
>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal build
>>>>>>>> cabal: You need to re-run the 'configure' command. The version of
>>>>>>>> Cabal being
>>>>>>>> used has changed (was Cabal-1.20.0.1, now Cabal-1.16.0).
>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal configure
>>>>>>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>>>>>>> Configuring lts1-0.1.0.0...
>>>>>>>> cabal: At least the following dependencies are missing:
>>>>>>>> base ==4.7.*
>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal build
>>>>>>>> cabal: You need to re-run the 'configure' command. The version of
>>>>>>>> Cabal being
>>>>>>>> used has changed (was Cabal-1.20.0.1, now Cabal-1.16.0).
>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ ls -l
>>>>>>>> total 112
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff     19 Mar  2 12:53 LICENCSE
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff    552 Mar  3 20:09 Main.hs
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff    477 Mar  3 20:07 Main.hs~
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff     46 Mar  2 12:52 Setup.hs
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff  30198 Mar  2 12:51 cabal.config
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff   1090 Mar  2 12:51
>>>>>>>> cabal.sandbox.config
>>>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  5 seancharles  staff    170 Mar  2 12:53 dist
>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff   1932 Mar  2 12:52 lts1.cabal
>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, welcome to a different kind of hell, "cabal version hell"
>>>>>>>> perhaps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anybody help me get it running again?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Sean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:25:28 +0000
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Forgot this:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Configure completed successfully.

   Building GHC version  : 7.8.4

   Build platform        : x86_64-apple-darwin
   Host platform         : x86_64-apple-darwin
   Target platform       : x86_64-apple-darwin

   Bootstrapping using   : /opt/local/bin/ghc
      which is version   : 7.8.3

   Using clang               : /usr/bin/gcc
      which is version       : 6.0
   Building a cross compiler : NO
   cpp       : /usr/bin/gcc
   cpp-flags : -E -undef -traditional -Wno-invalid-pp-token -Wno-unicode
-Wno-trigraphs
   ld        : /opt/local/bin/ld
   Happy     :  ()
   Alex      :  ()
   Perl      : /opt/local/bin/perl
   dblatex   :
   xsltproc  : /opt/local/bin/xsltproc

   Using LLVM tools
      llc   :
      opt   :
   HsColour : /opt/local/bin/HsColour

   Building DocBook HTML documentation : YES
   Building DocBook PS documentation   : NO
   Building DocBook PDF documentation  : NO
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On 4 March 2015 at 11:24, emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, I have port installed 7.8.3 as it needs an existing GHC, then I
> unpacked 7.8.4 from tarball and...............
>
> checking whether bootstrap compiler is affected by bug 9439... You are
> using a new version of LLVM that hasn't been tested yet!
> We will try though...
>
> /var/folders/15/fqzwrj1n32gfgx8yy5t8v1bc0000gq/T/ghc7339_0/ghc7339_6.s:3:2:
>      error: unknown directive
>             .macosx_version_min 10, 0
>             ^
>
> <no location info>:
>     Error running clang! you need clang installed to use theLLVM backend
>     (or GHC tried to execute clang incorrectly)
> failed to compile
>
> Is that a problem??? It seems to have run the configure script just fine
> for all of that.
>
>
> On 4 March 2015 at 10:45, emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am a 30+ years hacker Boris, building from source might just tempt me
>> still!! HAHAHA
>> My machine is now "clean" so I will decide how to play it!
>>
>> Thanks again everybody.
>>
>>
>> On 4 March 2015 at 09:31, Boris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Little addition to what Michael already sent you.
>>>
>>> To get ?the latest? you should build from sources :D
>>>
>>> But in case it?s ok for you to have ghc 7.8.3 and you don?t want to 
>>> ./configure;
>>> make; make install, you might also check this installation script on
>>> github <https://github.com/yogsototh/install-haskell>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On March 4, 2015 at 11:28:50, Michael Snoyman ([email protected])
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd recommend looking at:
>>>
>>> http://www.stackage.org/install#mac-os-x
>>>  https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell/blob/master/README.md#mac-os-x
>>>
>>> I don't generally recommend using the platform installer, it ends up
>>> pegging libraries to old versions which causes dependency problems, or in
>>> some cases have known bugs.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM emacstheviking <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed Michael!
>>>>
>>>> I am currently wiping all Mac Ports packages and I will perform a clean
>>>> up of /Library/Haskell etc.
>>>>
>>>> What is the *preferred* way to get the lastest for OSX: Using homebrew,
>>>> macports or the Haskell Platform. I *used* to use the platform installer
>>>> but for some reason (cabal I expect!) I started trying out other ways...
>>>>
>>>> I think actually I will go the platform packager again...
>>>>
>>>> On 4 March 2015 at 09:13, Michael Snoyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't really explain the details of what's going on here. It seems
>>>>> that in some cases different versions of the executables are being found,
>>>>> but I don't know why. Wiping out your sandbox (cabal sandbox delete) and
>>>>> starting over may be sufficient to recover.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:11 AM emacstheviking <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  As requested,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iMac:~ vosabristol$ ghc --version
>>>>>> The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 7.8.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which ghc
>>>>>> /opt/local/bin/ghc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm.... it shows a macports instsallation of GHC... but I am sure
>>>>>> that's how I git it... I *used* to use the OSX installation package but I
>>>>>> thought a clean start using MacPorts would somehow change the mood...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  iMac:~ vosabristol$ cabal --version
>>>>>> cabal-install version 1.16.0.2
>>>>>> using version 1.16.0 of the Cabal library
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  iMac:~ vosabristol$ which cabal
>>>>>> /usr/bin/cabal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... there is a possible case for *once again* performing a complete
>>>>>> and utter removal of Haskell and its partners in crime and doing a fresh
>>>>>> installation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of frustration I built OCaml and OPAM from sources last night but
>>>>>> I'd still like to go with GHC!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 March 2015 at 20:43, Michael Snoyman <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny that there's an issue being discussed in the cabal issue
>>>>>>> tracker right now[1] similar to this. But the report you're giving
>>>>>>> here is particularly strange. Cabal-1.16 implies that you're using GHC 
>>>>>>> 7.6,
>>>>>>> which is supported by the claim that base 4.7 isn't available. I'd
>>>>>>> recommend starting off with running the following commands and pasting 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> output:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ghc --version
>>>>>>> which ghc
>>>>>>> cabal --version
>>>>>>> which cabal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/2438
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:21 PM emacstheviking <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Forgot to add that somehow, despite the upgrade, my cabal version
>>>>>>>> has gone backwards from 1.20.0.1 to 1.16.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WTF?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3 March 2015 at 20:19, emacstheviking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I started an OpenGL project within an LTS sandbox as guided on
>>>>>>>>> another post and, somewhat foolishly it would see, I did a "cabal 
>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>> cabal-install" when prompted that a new version was available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The very next time I tried to work on my code.... I got this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  bash-3.2$ pwd
>>>>>>>>> /Users/seancharles/Documents/Coding/haskell/lts1
>>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal build
>>>>>>>>> cabal: You need to re-run the 'configure' command. The version of
>>>>>>>>> Cabal being
>>>>>>>>> used has changed (was Cabal-1.20.0.1, now Cabal-1.16.0).
>>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal configure
>>>>>>>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>>>>>>>> Configuring lts1-0.1.0.0...
>>>>>>>>> cabal: At least the following dependencies are missing:
>>>>>>>>> base ==4.7.*
>>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ cabal build
>>>>>>>>> cabal: You need to re-run the 'configure' command. The version of
>>>>>>>>> Cabal being
>>>>>>>>> used has changed (was Cabal-1.20.0.1, now Cabal-1.16.0).
>>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$ ls -l
>>>>>>>>> total 112
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff     19 Mar  2 12:53 LICENCSE
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff    552 Mar  3 20:09 Main.hs
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff    477 Mar  3 20:07 Main.hs~
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff     46 Mar  2 12:52 Setup.hs
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff  30198 Mar  2 12:51 cabal.config
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff   1090 Mar  2 12:51
>>>>>>>>> cabal.sandbox.config
>>>>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  5 seancharles  staff    170 Mar  2 12:53 dist
>>>>>>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 seancharles  staff   1932 Mar  2 12:52 lts1.cabal
>>>>>>>>> bash-3.2$
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, welcome to a different kind of hell, "cabal version hell"
>>>>>>>>> perhaps?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anybody help me get it running again?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Sean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
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