Rob
have a look at the seaside mailing-list archive!
I'm not sure that it is possible to get more support and feedback than
there is **any** mailing-list.
Stef
On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote:
Leon,
I am both "new" to Smalltalk (been staring at an "empty" browser for
a couple of years!) and to Aida, but believed in the ability of
Smalltalk to be the right tool for the job to build some tools I
need in a Healthcare Environment. I didn't know which to choose
either!
As a new Smalltalker, I couldn't understand Seaside to the point
where I could figure out how things worked and how to do something
with it WITHOUT following a tutorial line by line--and yet it felt
very "meta-capable." Just beyond me! However, I have no doubt it
can do great things. It just feels very theory-based for a
newcomer. I felt like I HAD to understand web programming and HTML
just to make it work.
Aida, I got. Very down to earth. Almost like "PRINT 'Hello'". It
seems to abstract the web aspect a little better (for me). While I
still have to ask for help, I'm usually "almost there" on my own.
It just seems to "make sense" to me. I think I have actually been
able to turn a major Smalltalk learning curve because of Aida. I
like the strong Model-View relationship it forces you to use, and,
indeed, supports what I am calling the "Model-View-Design" triad
whereby (if I actually knew more CSS) it is relatively
straightforward to restyle your site separate from your view and
from your model. (I am SURE Seaside does this too...again...how?!).
I'm not trying to make a pitch either way, I just followed the "keep
it simple" motto and went with what I could understand, and yet I
still worry about my choice occasionally because of the very large
Seaside bandwagon--Will there be more examples available? Will I be
able to get more help with Seaside? All that stuff.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that even if the objective facts
pointed out that Seaside was better, smarter, faster...it still
wouldn't work for ME right now because I can't make it work. Aida
could be that way for you--I would go with whichever fits YOU better
(or your team), because they both seem like mature products that
will be around for a while.
Rob
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Leon Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I don't want to start a war here, but I have been through the first
steps
with both Seaside and AIDA/Web, enough to build the start of a web
site.
Before I make the commitment to one or the other, I wonder if anyone
has
done a recent, objective comparison between the two ?
They both seem very capable. I felt like I turned out a better looking
product a little easier with AIDA, but I sense that Seaside has a much
larger following. I also wonder if continuations are that important
to me.
They also have a great many similarities. To the point where I think
I could
change AIDA to use a lot of Seaside if not the other way around.
Any real experiences between the two will be most appreciated. This
is a
major decision point for me.
Leon
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