On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Klaus D. Witzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > on Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:07:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: >>> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> on Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:44:57 +0100, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Klaus, >>>> >>>> This is a great idea! I'll be glad to test anything you create. >>> >>> :) >>> >>>> Unfortunately I don't have any time for development. >>> >>> Do you happen to know Norberto, he emailed that he made an object model >>> in >>> Squeak some time ago. Perhaps he can find it and send it to me over the >>> weekend. >> >> Don't know Norberto. I hope he sends you an object model. Maybe >> you're different but the blank sheet of paper is the hardest part of >> creating anything for me. > > Na, that's the easier part ;) took objects without pointers (words -> > Strings, synset id's -> SmallIntegers, synsets -> subclass of LookupKey) and > Dictionary, easy and extendible. > > Only performance of Dictionary is poor (unrelated to object model).
Saw the btree thread. >>> P.S. suggestions for a WordNet browser GUI in Squeak, anybody ? >> >> Typeahead for search, > > Oh. Have you seen some (re-)usable code for that? This seems not to be soo > straight-forward with morphic Squeak (example: Preferences browser). Don't know how reusable the code is but I'm reasonably sure I've seen some of the code tools supporting typeahead. >> mouseover for everything in the WN archive, > > Nah, too many WN entries have more than a screen-full of info (all the > relations, all the synsets they point to, etc). I thought about a *browser* > like the Smalltalk browsers, with panes for categories/relations and > scrollable info-area. > >> and >> an easy-to-extend model. I'm interested in poetry so one thing I've >> thought about is adding some of poetry's technical details to a word's >> information---syllables, stresses, rhymes, etc. > > This I do not understand. WordNet is about semantical relations of synsets, > not about isolated *words* (despite "word" in its name). There is nothing > one could store for one word, only for a synset/sense (multiple words). Thanks for spurring me to learn what a synset is. In case you haven't seen it yet, the Interfaces section of the Wikipedia page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordNet ) has some links you may find interesting. > Of course a relation like "rhymes_with" could be added easily but, there's > nothing in WordNet for morphology, affixes, syllables and such. > >> With the right kind >> of interface, I could enter a poem I like and enter (some or all of) >> the information along the way, or just after. Half an hour at a time. > > So you think about a poetry text editor? well, I thought about a browser for > information retrival. I'd like that, too. >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi list, >>>>> >>>>> has anyone started with/plans for a browser for a WordNet lexical db in >>>>> Smalltalk? I checked their Prolog formatted files, >>>>> >>>>> - http://wordnet.princeton.edu/obtain >>>>> >>>>> actually read them into a Squeak .image; they need only a handful of >>>>> memory MB (7.5, strings as yet not symbolized) plus less than 10MB of >>>>> disk >>>>> space if gloss texts would be stored in the .changes file. >>>>> >>>>> Also, if anyone already has (or had) ideas for a GUI for a WordNet >>>>> browser >>>>> in Squeak please let me know (!) I cannot say I like their basic Web >>>>> interface (it has nothing that a Smalltalk browser offers) >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o0=1&o1=1&r=1&s=small+talk&i=1&h=100#c >>>>> >>>>> and think that can be done better for local use, for example in class >>>>> rooms (and of course when authoring documentation for Squeak ;) but, >>>>> unlikely for the OLPC because of the footprint. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. >>>>> >>>>> /Klaus >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". >>>>> Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". >>> Albert >>> Einstein >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". Albert > Einstein > > > -- How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. -- Anne Frank Paradise is exactly where you are right now...only much, much better. -- Laurie Anderson _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [email protected] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
