Hans Schueren wrote:
Hello , here is Hans , The Byte Surfer ,
the smalltalk code is from books of year 1992 and 1993 1988 and 1987.
I have a lot of books around the world . ALL of the Topic SMALLTALK
80. Only 80 !!!
Because i am a absolute beginner and want to learn smalltalk 80.
Smalltalk 80 encompasses core language and libraries. Squeak and Pharo
are direct decendents from Smalltalk 80, however Smalltalk was always
meant to be an evolving system, and "Smalltalk 80" is just a snapshot
from 1980 and all flavours of Smalltalk how moved over this time. The
core language is the same but the libraries have moved a bit.
I realized that thing have changed. for example GUI programming
Mosttimes there is a optional library needed for creation. There is a
optional IDE i know , for those things.
No Matter !
If you wish to use Pharo by Example, then its best to use the older
image that the book was written for...
http://www.pharobyexample.org/image/PBE-OneClick-1.1.app.zip
I believe its the same situation for Squeak...
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
Now Pharo By Example is about a third of the way through being updated
to recent Pharo versions, but it takes time.
I dont know anything about the NEW TOOLS and Replacements in
actual Smalltalk Engineering like PHARO.
Please tell me what i have to learn.
What is GUI IDE in Pharo. Do i have to learn Morpic. What else
for Window and Buttons design ?
The Pharo ( and actual squeak ) have very much weight for a beginner.
Its heaviness is the paradigm shift in thinking about programming. Like
all things, it gets easier after that hump. Now some say, "the only
languages worth learning are those that change how you think about
programming" I hope you stick with it. Ask many questions here.
After the By Example books, try...
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/
(I don't know why the main site is down atm)
cheers -ben
Is it right , that all " NEW STUFF " is decribed in the two manuals :
Pharo by Example + Deep into Pharo.
Or is there any other actual description about "Up to date programming
Pharo" ????
Sincerely Your Friend
Hans
The Byte Surfer
PS. Wish to have Smalltalk 80 from XEROX 1987 here. ha ha ha
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