Works great Thank you for the link ;~))
igor

On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 9:00 PM Scott Gibson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I am not sure if this provides the solution you are looking for, but you
> can successfully run Etoys on SqueakJS directly from your browser at
> https://squeak.js.org/etoys/ . There, it appears to have no full screen
> or lagging mouse issue.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>
> On 12/16/25 21:00, [email protected] wrote:
> > This might not be applicable to this group, but I don't think my message
> went through on the Etoys mailing group and I'm fairly certain all support
> for Etoys is gone. I've looked through all the affiliated links, most only
> exist on the Internet Archive, which is my evidence for the statement.
> >
> > That said, there's a ghost of Etoys in Squeak and I'm hoping my question
> might have an answer here.
> >
> > When running the widely available Etoys distribution for Linux (I
> installed it via the Linux Mint repot), there seems to be a universal issue
> regardless of the distro that I am not sure how to solve and that's when
> the mouse is idle, running scripts slow down. I've tried a few settings in
> preferences (I usually immediately check the 'higher performance' box on
> any perception of 'wonky performance' I notice early on when working on a
> project) and cannot seem to figure out what is causing the issue.
> >
> > To create this situation, simply make make a rectangle, and drop a 'turn
> by' and 'move by' tile into a scriptor.  Set the ticker speed to 100 ticks
> per second and turn it on, setting the little rectangle into an endless
> spin.  Move the mouse and watch it.  Stop moving the mouse and notice the
> ticker speed loses accuracy and slows WAY down.  And it's entirely
> dependent on the mouse input.
> >
> > Another general VM functionality bug I found...
> >
> > ...when going full screen, I think the VM is detecting the physical
> display and not the actual resolution available to it from the OS. How it
> bypasses the OS, I'm not sure, maybe an age of the software issue? The
> result is that going between full screen and windowed causes massive
> display errors too numerous to explain, but they range from Etoys VM
> crashing to full screen extending far beyond the actual set resolution of
> the computer. I've not used the Mac version but I've not had either of
> these issues for Windows and I'm wondering if there's a VM option when
> compiling from source (I've not been successful here, but I can be
> bullheaded until something works if necessary) or, more desireably, a VM
> that already runs on Linux that doesn't have these problems.
> >
> > Thanks for any input. Honestly, for me, the real thing I'd like is for
> Etoys implementation in Squeak to work as it does in Etoys so the VM's keep
> up with the never-stable OS landscape, but as I understand it, the
> ambassador for this project is, sadly, no longer with us. I use Etoys
> because I'm not a math person and programming things for serious is a
> laughable ask to expect from me, and so I cling to it, despite the lack of
> support.
> >
> > At any rate, I don't know where to ask questions and because Etoys is
> based on old squeak and it's in smalltalk, I figured with that project in
> statis, this might be a logical place to ask.
> >
> > Primarily, the mouse moving affecting scripts speed is far more dire to
> my project than the resolution issues. They're negligable if not
> solved...an inconvenience.  The script timing is extremely detrimental to
> my work.
> >
> > I apologize if the question is beyond the scope of help in this group.
> > Thanks for reading.
> >
> > p.s. The real solution, I suppose, is learning smalltalk, but frankly,
> I've not figured out on my own how etoys translates to smalltalk despite
> the script-to-text because the real syntax of smalltalk is far
> more...fluid, shall we say...There's lots of similarities I've found poking
> through the Etoys classes, but tracking out the bits to figure out how the
> picture is made and further more constructing bits to make a picture is not
> clear...anyway...just thought I'd state that I'd RATHER use squeak, but for
> whatever reason, the books I have didn't tickle my brain the correct way
> and Etoys is just more fun anyway... :P
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