Hi all, On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:20:37 +0100 Rob Dixon <rob.di...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 14 July 2014 14:22:55 BST, John SJ Anderson <geneh...@genehack.org> wrote: > >Hi. List Mom here. > > > >Please take this off list, it's not on-topic. > > > >John: Thank you for answering the OP's question. However, Shlomi is > >right, the two argument form of open() is something that the general > >Perl community considers to be a deprecated style that should not be > >used with new code. This list is not the place to argue that, that > >ship has sailed. > > > >Shlomi: line-by-line teardowns of scripts people post in response to > >questions are generally not helpful, particularly when the script > >_will_ work as written. It makes people feel attacked and leads to > >defensive responses that make the list appear to be an unfriendly > >place. If you think you can write a better or more correct script, > >just provide it; this type of critique ends up being an overall > >negative contribution. > > > > > >thanks, > >john, > >perl-beginners list mom > > John, > > I was thrilled with your initial work as list moderator, and sent you a > personal email to say so. I had been asked if I wanted the position myself, > and was delighted that it finally fell to you as you initially achieved far > and beyond anything that I was capable of. > > Some years on it is sad that your input has become more judgemental and far > less humble. These days, your head pops up over the parapet only to aim a > shotgun, or occasionally to answer a question yourself that has taken your > fancy. Your “It makes people feel attacked and leads to defensive responses > that make the list appear to be an unfriendly place” applies just as much to > your own posts, and for many months I have been disinclined to contribute as > a direct result. > > I trust that you have been monitoring activity on this list as part of your > responsibility, and I am sure that you will have seen a steady downward trend > on recent years. > > I hope it isn't too much to hope that the fair but modest hand that you first > exercised could make a return? > I just wanted to note that I agree almost 100% with what Rob said. I think we can criticise the response codes of people who posted to the list, while maintaining a good and benevolent environment here. One should realise that when X criticises Y's code he does not imply that Y is a bad person or that he’ll never improve. «Your work is not your worth.» Here are some resources I collected about handling criticism: * http://unarmed.shlomifish.org/909.html * http://unarmed.shlomifish.org/1747.html - "The Stoic Road to Peace of Mind" * http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=lessig-about-rewarding-the-critics * <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< It was generally believed that the purpose of combat was to outsmart your enemy - deceive him, trick him. "For in tricks you should do your war." Saladin ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin ) took the exact opposite approach in liberating Palestine from the Knights Templar. He conquered it one fortress after the other, and people knew exactly where he was at any given time (and it didn't help them). He showed mercy, respect and chivalry at the knights (who were murderous and insane) and by the time he finished fighting them and letting them go, they were almost completely sane, happy and unwilling to fight Saladin again even by orders of their highest spiritual leaders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_%28film%29 . Despite the fact that Saladin’s soldiers were almost all highly trained, loved fighting and subduing their enemies, he often handled the fights personally to create an air of caring. Saladin could have killed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_England (Richard the Lion’s Heart) before too long, but instead enjoyed fighting him in a chivalrous way. >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Originally taken from https://plus.google.com/+ShlomiFish/posts/i5Z8XdqTdwE which is a Google+ post about a different topic) ========== Hope it helps. -- Shlomi Fish -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ List of Text Processing Tools - http://shlom.in/text-proc E‐mail, web feeds, and doing something productive — choose two. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
