Hi Maxim, I'm sorry to hear this hasn't been resolved! I've just asked on the perl-help irc.perl.org channel - feel free to join in, but otherwise I'll let you know what I learn.
Kind regards, Andrew On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:00 AM Maxim Abalenkov <maxim.abalen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > How are you? Thank you for all your wisdom and insight. May I place get > back to the original subject? I still haven’t received my PAUSE account > details. I sent another request approximately two weeks ago, but there is > no response. Is there any other channel to reach out to the PAUSE accounts > admin team? Thank you and have a great day ahead! > > — > Best wishes, > Maxim > > On 2 Jan 2024, at 15:26, Rob Coops <rco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just my two cents on this. > > There is no sense in putting one language over another if it is > for personal use. In those cases use what you want and what you feel is > best suited to your needs. You might Choose Perl as you are familiar with > it and you need to process lots and lots of text for your project. On the > other hand you might want to use PHP because the thing that you are trying > to do is to extend an existing open source project with some cool function > and it happens to be written in PHP. Maybe python is your poison of choice > because you want to learn the language a bit better or feel that the > modules related to AI are really useful and more mature in Python then they > are in PHP and Perl. From that perspective it does not matter what you pick > as there is no one that will tell you you were wrong and even when you end > up telling yourself that it is only your time that you spend going down a > path less fruitful than you had initially expected. > > But when you are looking at a business context you are most often forced > into a certain language because of reasons well outside of your control. > The project already is written in Ruby, Python or Java. The new project > must be written in Rust since someone upstairs has heard it is the best > language ever and has decided all new projects will be written in Rust > etc... Even if you are the one to make the choice of language you are often > forced into a particular direction because there are only 3 people in the > organization that know Smaltalk and there are 300 that are good with Java > and C#. Also making the wrong decision can be very expensive since it is > there is the ongoing maintenance cost and the cost of hiring people with > the appropriate skills but also the cost of interfacing with newer > technologies in the future a language like Perl that has seen its usage > shrink an awful lot over the years will be far less likely to have well > written and highly performant solutions for interfacing with the latest and > greatest technology simply because the number of companies needing this and > the number of individuals with the required knowledge and time to write > those solutions is far smaller making it less likely that this will be done > quickly. > > As for practicing Perl, the biggest problem that I always found with Perl > when learning the language (long before github and such were around) is > that it was hard to find projects that I could contribute to. But these > days with github and gitlab for instance it is so much easier to find an > interesting project to work on a good place to start would be: > https://github.com/topics/perl these are open source projects that will > welcome contributions, not all of them will have a issue tracker I guess > but those that do make it very easy to see what kinds of things actual > users are asking for or running into. I would suggest not looking at bugs > but at feature requests and seeing if there is anything that you feel makes > sense or could be fun, pay attention to what the core developers comment on > the request as they might have reasons for not wanting to implement it. But > usually it is just a lack of time that makes feature requests stay open. > Initially it will seem very daunting to just pick up some random project > and other people's code and it can be a challenge but also good fun. > You might feel that you are nowhere near good enough to work on this or > that just yet but with a little patience and a bit or a lot of effort you > will find that there is no problem that you cannot tackle. It is all about > you having the interest in and the time for completing the task you set > yourself. You might very well find that someone else has implemented a > solution for the same problem by the time you are done with it. That is > great as you can see how someone else solved the problem and maybe learn > from their efforts or find that your solution is better as theirs will not > work in this or that case for instance. > The main thing is to just get stuck in and to have fun doing it, if it is > not fun you picked the wrong project or the wrong task or maybe even the > wrong language to work in, some languages are far less fun to work in than > others. As a final hint, have a look at the documentation if there is any > that describes coding standards as there are enough people with strong > opinions about things like "unless" or bracket placement for instance that > even a great solution might end up getting rejected based on not meeting > the coding standards of the project you are working on. > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 5:09 PM Mike <te...@mflan.com> wrote: > >> >> That is true. I don't see the appeal with Python, but >> I have barely dabbled in it. I code for me and I know >> Perl. I don't have the motivation to learn a new language. >> Perl works well, so I use it. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> On 12/25/23 22:05, William Torrez Corea wrote: >> >> >> I am a beginner, I am learning of the book Beginning Perl by Curtis >> "Ovid" Poe. I am learning subroutines. >> >> I want to develop a program or work in a project where the people use >> Perl but the majority of projects are developed in Java or C#. >> >> -- >> >> With kindest regards, William. >> >> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ >> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system >> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org >> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ >> >> >> >> -- Andrew Solomon Director, Geekuni <https://geekuni.com/> P: +44 7931 946 062 E: and...@geekuni.com
