would it be rude to ask ya'll to take this thread elsewhere. this list is 
so high-traffic already. if as a fledgling newbie i've overstepped any 
bounds, my apologies. 

tia,

ken



On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Brett W. McCoy wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Maciejewski, Thomas wrote:
> 
> > not to get flamed here but one of the reasons I dont like perl is that
> > there are sometimes too many ways to do something ... and all of them
> > are fairly cryptic ...  people having different coding styles can really
> > confuse the hell out of someone else that is trying to do some work with
> > the code.
> 
> Why are you on a Perl list if you don't like Perl...
> 
> Anyway, this could be a long debate and everyone will have different
> opinions.  I use Java very little, although the software the company I
> work is primarily all Java -- application server & bundled Tomcat -- and I
> have had to diddle around with some of the Java servlets & JSP to get it
> to cooperate with the system level stuff I usually work on (which is all
> Perl).  However, I have also done a lot of Perl web stuff in other venues,
> both on Unix & Windows, using mod_perl, plain old CGI and ASP/PerlScript.
> 
> Java is a very clean language -- almost to clean for my tastes, to the
> point that it almost looks like Visual Basic! :-)
> 
> My personal preference for web development is with mod_perl & Mason.  You
> can create very clean (at least for Perl), easy to maintain code, but you
> still get the freedom and flexibility that Perl has always provided.
> 
> If you have a multi-programmer software project, you MUST have some kind
> of coding standard or guideline.  I'm trying to get the couple other
> people in my company who occasionally do Perl (we're mainly a Java shop
> with a couple of exceptions, like myself) to try to follow some sensible
> Perl coding guidelines -- like using strict, using proper scoping, etc.
> The problem is that these folks see Perl more as a fancy shell scripting
> language, and are only slowly seeing that Perl can be used for far more
> and in a much more elegant way than just writing replacements for shell
> scripts.
> 
> -- Brett
>                                           http://www.chapelperilous.net/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mos Eisley Spaceport; you'll not find a more wretched collection of
> villainy and disreputable types...
>               -- Obi-wan Kenobi, "Star Wars"
> 
> 
> 

KeN
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