> According to Amazon the Perl black book is out of print. :( That's a crime! > you got me all hyped about checking it out :) Sorry :) I get feverish on occasion about stuff. Maybe I should be in sales? Naaaa
> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Muey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:12 AM > > To: Dylan Boudreau; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Perl book > > > > > > > > I'd say go to the library then and check out some books > > ( have them get them other libraries if they don't have them > > ) and when you find one you jive with go buy it. > > > > I love 'The Black Book of Perl' and have learned most all > > I do from it and I to do a lot of Unix Administration. > > > > One reason I didn't jive real great with the O'reilly books > > is that the ones I > > Had available to me where sort of vague while being > > desciptive at the same time Especially with modules. > > > > Example : > > > > Page 114 of 'Perl in a Nutshell' > > > > It is describing the pack function and does so quite well and > > informative like. But if I'd never used pack before I'd have > > no idea what it is for. How am I supposed to understand what > > 'taking a list of values and packing it in a binary > > structure' is supposed to mean if I've never come across it before. > > > > There are no examples of situations you might use this or > > samples of usage beside at the top > > > > It has > > Pack template, list > > > > Then explains what pack does and what template and list are > > but how do you know if you are supposed to do > > > > pack($template, @list); > > Or exactly like they have it > > pack $template, $list; > > Or both or can I do > > Pack abBA, list > > > > Or only one character where template is? > > > > And I can see that for template I might use any number of > > things a,A,b,B, etc and I can even see what they mean a - An > > ASCCI string, will be null padded. > > > > That's a great reminder if you've used this before and > > understand what 'An ASCCI string, will be null padded' means. > > What is list, an array or a string? What can it be, a file, > > input, what good would you get from using pack? > > > > Why not thrown in : > > You may want to use pack if you are ..... > > > > And have at least one example > > $value = "Example Of actual data you might want to use in > > pack"; pack(a, $value); > > > > This would return ... So that you could ... > > > > So, to me, these books are much like Microsoft Tech Support : > > There was a helicopter flying in Seattle and it became too > > foggy to see. Desperatley tring to find out where they were > > the pilot yelled out of the window to some people in a > > building nearby ," We're lost! Where are we?" and the people > > said, "You're in a helicopter!". The helicopter landed safely > > and the crew asked how the pilot knew where to go based on > > what those people said and he replied, "Well, I knew we were > > by the Microsfot building because their answer was > > technically correct but completely useless. ". > > > > So basically are the Orielly books I;ve seen good books. You > > bet, they are informative and acurate but they are very > > difficult to learn new stuff from! > > So instead of learning something new it kind of makes you > > avoid learning new stuff because then you have to > > ask a list what this or that means and risk a pummeling at > > the ignorance you've shown! > > > > I'd take one for free but I wouldn't pay for it. > > > > But that's just me. > > > > Dan > > > > > I am a network administrator maintaining strictly Unix > boxes of some > > > type or another. I want to become as proficient at Perl as I > > > possibly can because I see scripting as the week point on > my resume. > > > I have the Oreilly book "Perl for System Administrators" > but I want > > > to read another book before I get in to that one so I have a good > > > base. > > > > > > I think the main thing I want to get out of the next book is more > > > familiarity with modules because Learning Perl doesn't > really cover > > > them well at all. > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan Muey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: January 15, 2003 11:32 AM > > > To: Dylan Boudreau; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Perl book > > > > > > > > > The black books are very nice. I like them better than > the Orielly > > > ones. > > > > > > Not to start a flame war, I just like em better. > > > > > > Also there's the 'using perl' for specifci jobs, system > admin, web > > > programming, database, algorythms, etc > > > > > > Can't remember the publisher off hand, sorry. > > > > > > Depends on what you want to use perl for now that you've done > > > Learning Perl. > > > > > > You could do one of my favorite things and go into Barnes > and Noble > > > and read all of them, or check them out form the library > and start > > > it and if you don't like it take it back and get another!! > > > > > > Basically you can't go wrong with anything perl!!! > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dylan Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:06 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Perl book > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already read Learning Perl and am looking to get > > > another book > > > > to learn more what would people recommend? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
