just want to share with other unwary folk the pitfalls of making an assumption about perl (or anything for that matter)
i tried for the longest time to get something like the following to work:: foreach $section (keys %board){ for my $a (1..19){ for (1..19){ $board->{"Q1S1"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q1S2"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q2S1"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q2S2"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q3S1"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q3S2"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q4S1"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; $board->{"Q4S2"}->[$a]->[$_] and print "\n$a $_"; } } } well, it is supposed to repeat the inner loops several times over right? for each hashkey, do the following.... etc etc.. if i got rid of the "foreach $section (keys %board){" the rest would work fine. I was about to yell at you guys about it when, out of desperation, i tried one last thing : my $board = \%board; #first line in the whole thing and it WORKS!!!! It turns out that a reference to a hash that's created on the 'spur of the moment' and not explicitly made to refer to a %HASH doesn't work the same way as a real hash :P now that i've figured this out, i would love to learn a bit about /how/ this works. $board ->{"blah"} is different from $board = \%board; $board->{"blah"} i think i understand, but would like a clear explanation anyway. btw- i know it looks like nonsense code, but i cut out some details in the cut and paste *shrug* - just testing some functions on an individual basis..... thanks, willy :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]