We should avoid re-inventing the wheel as much as we can :)
Yes there are some cases where existing frameworks do not much our requirements
Then in such situation we can go for re-build our own framework (even though this is 
not an easy exercise ;).

Ok, wait and see how the market will grow ...

José.

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To: NYIMI Jose (BMB); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: :Application



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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:33:19 -0500, "Charles K. Clarkson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> NYIMI Jose (BMB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :
> : I'm wondering why the CGI::Application module is not
> : so popular in Perl's world like it is the case for
> : Struts in Java's world.
> : To me, there are both very similar due to the fact
> : that they are serving the same cause : "framework to
> : build reusable web applications".
> :
> : Is that related to TMTOWTDI slogan of Perl ? :)
> 
>    Perhaps. But the  mailing list for C::A is popular.
> I have about a thousand messages archived since last
> year. Maybe it is just that casual programmers are
> less likely to program in Java. And IMO C::A appeals to serious 
> programmers. I used perl for more than a year as a utility. I didn't 
> do any multiple screen apps until just recently. C::A is also OO and 
> that is a turn off for many.
> 

The ironic part to me is that I think C::A applies to the middle of the road. It is 
overly complex to do something simple (or at least has enough of a learning curve to 
avoid it for simple things), but a "serious" programmer might feel restricted by the 
manner in which it handles things, in other words, they are more likely to grow their 
own object/framework, as I recently have re-written a framework I had previously 
developed, moved from functional Perl 4 to OOP, but didn't start with C::A as a basis, 
though mine works in a similar manner.  On top of that, right now I don't know that 
there is a large middle market, where one needs a decent starting framework to build 
on, but isn't willing to grow their own, or is at the beginner stage where the goals 
don't warrant the learning curve for a couple of dynamic pages or a form that just 
sends a message.

I think this market will grow, and from looking at the docs it appears C::A has 
matured substantially since I last visited it, so I am not against its' usage or 
promoting it, just throwing my two cents in the pot as to why there hasn't been more 
uptake...

http://danconia.org


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