drieux wrote: > On Sunday, Nov 23, 2003, at 11:22 US/Pacific, R. Joseph Newton wrote: > [..] > > > > Why is there no Resent-By field in this message? > [..] > >
... > > So which is your real issue here that has you > concerned? The fact that this can be done? Or that > there are marketting mumblers out there who think > that they can productize some sort of mail application > at both the user level and at the transfer agent level > that would be able to prevent this from happening > pursuant to the expectation that this would prevent > some of the corporate scandals that arise when email > leaks, etc, etc, etc, and hence be a viable 'bizniz plan'. > > ciao > drieux Nothing that complex. My issue is comprehesibility of the flow of discussion on this list. Threading is a specific factor in that comprehensibility. I am somewhat fatalistic when it comes to newbies. Obviously, people who are just getting there feet in the water cannot be expected to be aware of the structure of mail transmission. Most mail clients [wisely] hide about 80% of the metadata sent. I would hope though, that those who come on the list as helpers, and assume an air of deep experience, would recognize those standards most pertinent to clear communication. I am convinced that the two appendices I cited are the most critical to cogent tracking of the discussions posted here. Any one post may touch on issues which, quite reasonably, follow different paths of development. When the threads of reference are properly maintained, these threads can be very rich. When they are left to idiot thread based only on a /Re:\s+/i prepended to the subject line, they become indeed a dischordant mumble. As for the means by which this post arrive at my mailbox. I see nothing in the return path that would indicate Jason as the proximate sender. As I said, I believe that source of mailings should always be transparent. This post as it is, originated from your server: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from onion.perl.org (onion.develooper.com [63.251.223.166]) by sapir.efn.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with SMTP id hANJcF22080894 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: (qmail 58645 invoked by uid 1005); 23 Nov 2003 19:38:14 -0000 List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...[ internal perl.org] Received: (qmail 6029 invoked by uid 225); 23 Nov 2003 19:38:13 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6024 invoked by uid 507); 23 Nov 2003 19:38:12 -0000 Received: from wetware.wetware.com (HELO wetware.com) (199.108.16.1) by one.develooper.com (qpsmtpd/0.27-dev) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:37:40 -0800 Received: from jeeves ([199.108.16.11] helo=wetware.com) by wetware.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AO038-0000CZ-5R for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:37:38 -0800 In the current state of internet mail, utmost clarity ias to origin and forwarding paths is an absolutely essential courtesy. Please reread the standard, start using full header view to analyse the pathways, and set a good example for newbies. Joseph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]