On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Wiggins d'Anconia wrote:

> Chris Devers wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Wiggins d'Anconia wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The difficulty in developing in an MVC way is often sighted as a
> >>reason not to use PHP/ASP (even Mason) in web development
> >
> >
> > Oh? That isn't how I read things.
> >
>
> Right, you need to re-read my statement. "developing in an MVC way".

I guess it's splitting hairs, but I don't see MVC as a development
style, but rather a *problem* style. The problem itself is often MVC
whether or not you choose to develop code that deals with that in a
useful way.

It's like saying "sailing in an aquatic way", if you follow my meaning.

:-)

> > And *that* is the big problem with tools like PHP, ASP, JSP, and Mason:
> > all four of these co-mingle the View and the Controller
>
> [snip]
>
> Right so you are saying what I said in a more detailed way. It is
> difficult to "develop in an MVC way" with those....(and the part I
> left out, the reason) is that the components are most often
> "co-mingled".

I guess. I still see the problem itself as being MVC, and the tools in
question don't do well at recognizing & isolating the three tasks; I
still think that to say "develop in an MVC way" puts things backwards.

But this is all hair-splitting, so nevermind :-)




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Chris Devers

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