On 7/13/06, Mr. Shawn H. Corey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I thought about this; then I thought about this; and then I thought about this. Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>"Shawn" == "Mr Shawn H Corey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Shawn> Not everyone who reads this mailing list posts to it. What impression > Shawn> would his comments leave on them? How can we encourage people to use > Shawn> Perl if they think they will receive harsh criticism? The fact that the > Shawn> criticism was to a response and not an original post is unimportant; the > Shawn> fact that is was done is. > > I never criticize a question here (unless it's homework), so this shouldn't > be construed by onlookers as a discouragement to ask questions. > First, you should never criticize a homework problem. Everybody has to learn how to do it right. Like you, I am astonish by those who try to pull a fast one. I mean I have been programming in Perl for more years than they have been alive. Do they really think they can pull a fast one on me? Well, maybe yes, but there are others to set me right. The proper way to ask a homework question is: "I have this homework question that I don't understand. Please help me get started." Second, even if it's a homework question, what right do we have to treat it any different? Every question gets an answer; the more details you give, the more specific the answer. > I *do* criticize broken *answers* though, so hopefully anyone looking > on will *test* their answers before posting. Then the original questioner > gets *good* code, I can skip answering that, and we *all win*. > It's not the criticism, it's the tone. Everybody makes mistakes; even the great Randal L. Shwartz (I have a list). If you think somebody else has made a mistake, point it out. DO NOT SAY EVERYTHING THEY POST IS WRONG! > This is what I'm aiming for. Ask all you want, but when you answer, be DAMN > WELL sure that it's a good answer. And if you're not sure or you don't have > time to test, MOVE ON, because someone else will probably answer better, > faster, cheaper. There's enough experts in this group already: we don't need > to be distracted by threads like this where we've had to point out the flaws > in an answer. > > Thank you. > "Ask all you want," but do not angry the great god Randal L. Schwartz? Yeah, we who have busted our balls have answers. And we don't care what you think. All we are trying to do is answer the questions to the best of our abilities. You may have a better idea. BUT DO NOT THINK WE ARE INFERIOR BECAUSE WE DO NOT ANSWER THE SAME WAY YOU DO! You are wrong; not because your answers are wrong; it's because your attitude is wrong. People ask questions to support their egos; not to support yours. -- __END__ Just my 0.00000002 million dollars worth, --- Shawn "For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." Aristotle * Perl tutorials at http://perlmonks.org/?node=Tutorials * A searchable perldoc is at http://perldoc.perl.org/
Am I allowed to give a view point from the perspective of a "newbie" NOT to Perl, but to some of the "styles" I have been introduced to (Remember TIMTOWTDI ???) What has taken place here is a "War of the Gods" that reminds me of so many listservs, forums, and "magazine rebuttals" (letters to the editor). Eventually, with this type of war, this list will eventually cause the good ones to stop posting/answering and the newbies fearful of asking a question. Not gonna lie about it. My style of code would probably remind most of you of the 90's... BUT IT WORKS and I UNDERSTAND IT! For the most part, I learned that in Perl, there is more than one way to do it, BUT from this list, it appears that there is ONLY ONE way... So I ask, can someone up front stop the car, stop the arguing, simply pull over, ask for some directions and lead us to where ever it is we are supposedly going...As I forgot the map, starting to feel car-sick, and I gotta peeeeeee... All fun aside, I have a Perl question, but I have learned not to "top post" and NOT to hijack a thread... Thanks to all that have taught me such. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>
