At 09:54 AM 3/16/2006, Joe Landman wrote:

Daniel Pfenniger wrote:

You need "really big" volumes to get there.

Yes, but it does not seem to me unreasonable to put such a card in
millions of PC's if the average applications run a bit faster and the
cost increase stays below the PC cost.  After all
the 8087 math coprocessor of the i386 era did just that.

I agree that it makes sense to put such a card into millions of PCs. Not at $8000/card. The issue is that the C600 costs quite a bit itself as it is not being produced in volumes that can drive enough economies of scale (yet). So the basic part will be a few k$. The card cost will be (relatively speaking) low.

I think (WAG here) that Clearspeed wants people to design a socket onto motherboards for them. Lowers the costs all around.


But that greatly increases the cost of the motherboards, and mobo manufacturing is a very price sensitive business. every square cm of board costs a bunch, all the way through the whole supply chain (mfr, storage, shipping, etc.)

Interesting that there was HUGE economic pressure to integrate the FPU onto the chip after the 386/387 era. And the whole reason the x87 wasn't integrated wasn't because of marketing, but because of die size limitations. With the 486, the dies got big enough to integrate, and they've never looked back. I haven't even seen any mass-market coprocessors of that type (i.e. closely coupled to the CPU) since then. The coprocessors have tended towards performing some specific function (e.g. graphics, or PCI bridge with integrated peripherals) and have been fairly loosely coupled.




I would say that there is more potential for a clever soul to reprogram the guts of Matlab, etc., to transparently share the work across multiple machines. I think that's in the back of the mind of MS, as they move toward a services environment and .NET

Lots of people have thought about that for a long time, including
Cleve Moeller.   The potential clever soul should be well above
average, and considering MS products, well above MS average programmer.


At least there's lots of MS programmers to draw from, so on a statistical basis, you'd expect one to pop up.

jim



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