Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 08:49:08AM -0500, Richard Walsh wrote:

Speaking of Hyper Transport 3.0 and its AC chassis-to-chassis capabilities and 10 to 20 Gbps performance maximums one-way (non-coherent, off chassis I believe), what do the people that know say about scalability. Are we looking at coherency

I don't know (like it would stop me), but there are few-port HT switches,
and if there are several ports on one chassis one could wire up
some topology, which, hopefully, will match the problem.
   HT switches ... ?? ... can you point me to a reference?
within the board complex
   and basic reference ability off board or something else?

I'm not sure how this is different from vanilla packet-switched
MPI network. It's not about maintaining memory coherency.
Well, of course you can run MPI over it as you can on the Cray and Altix, but you are artificially separating memory in software that is in fact closer in hardware.
   That is where the pGAS programming models become more efficient.  Remote
memory references expressed in the syntax and compiled to instructions for direct puts and gets without management or translation by a NIC. It would seem that HT 3.0 supports this model across chassis as long as the programmer manages
   memory synchronization.
Sounds like the Cray X1E pGAS memory model. Is there a role for

I don't think there is any other model but message passing. It's not
like this is a ccHT a la HORUS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HORUS_interconnect
The inter-chassis, but non-coherent interface that HT 3.0 supports would seem to work very nicely with UPC and CAF. They run very well on the Cray X1, which provides coherent memory on-board only as well.
   Regards,

   rbw
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