Hi Kevin,

Kevin Ball wrote:
Patrick,

From you flawed white papers, you compared your own results against numbers picked from the web, using older interconnect with unknown software versions.

  I have spent many hours searching to try to find application results
with newer Myrinet and Mellanox interconnects.  I would be thrilled (and
I suspect others might as well, but I'm only speaking for myself) if you
would take these white papers as a challenge and publish application
results with the latest and greatest hardware and software.

Believe it or not, but I really want to do that. I don't think it's appropriate to compare results from other vendors though: in Europe, it's forbidden to do comparative advertisement (ie the soap X washes more white that the brand Y) and I completely agree with the rationale.

However, there is nothing wrong into publishing applications numbers versus plain Ethernet for example, and let people put curves side by side if they want. Or submit to application specific websites like Fluent. I will do that as soon as I get a decent sized cluster for me (I have a lot of small ones of various cpus/chipsets but my 64 nodes cluster is getting old). Time is also a big problem right now, but I will have more manpower in a couple of months. Time is really the expensive resource.

Most integrators have their own testbed and they do comparisons, but you will never get these results, and even if you could have it, you could not published it.

Recently, I have been thinking about something that you may like. With motherboards with 4 good PCIE slots coming on the marketing (driven by SLI and such), it could be doable to have a reasonably sized machine, let's say 64 nodes, with 4 different interconnects in it. If Intel or AMD (or any good will) would donate the nodes, and the interconnect vendors would donate NICs + switch + cables, and a academic or governmental entity would volunteer to host it, you could have a testbed accessible by people to do benchmarking. The deal would be: you can use the test bed but you have to allow your benchmark code to be available to everyone and the code will be run on all interconnects and the results public.

What do you think of that ?

Patrick
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Patrick Geoffray
Myricom, Inc.
http://www.myri.com
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