The programs inside spec are open source.

For example 458.sjeng is the free sjeng 11.2 version,
which we gave a 150MB hashtable and fixed a few old bugs which the
compiler guys noticed past years when testrunning specint2006.

Lucky there were more bugs in compilers than in the code to be fixed.

It's simply nearly impossible to license for example my diep's source code to spec. Not because i would mind those compiler guys have my diep's source code, as it will only have a positive effect that their compiler gets fast for my code.

But competitors will be able to simply buy a cheap spec license and see my source code.

As a result only non-commercial code will show up in spec.

That's the only disadvantage of spec, and it is a non-solvable problem in gametree search.

So apart from this single problem, and the 2 year unnecessary delay to create the testsuite,
what they do is pretty good idea in terms of benchmarking.

Someone without ties to a company must make a benchmark for systems, and let's face it. 95% of all persons on this list are totally subjective, some because they are paid by some company and therefore will only see that company or one of its business partners as best, and again others are still believing too much in the past where the hardware field advances quickly.

So someone must do objective testing with software of what is faster.

Then you get a compiler problem. So you need source code.

In all that spec is doing a reasonable good job compared to others.

Find me 1 site that 'tests' hardware that's objective. Spec is the best compromise.


Vincent


----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] SPEC CPU 2006 released


Mark Hahn wrote:
The new SPEC cpu suite has been released, and initial results
are posted to:

is this one still stupidly not open-source?

I don't think SPEC has any open source benchmarks.

As far as I can tell, SPEC groups derive income by licensing their
benchmarks to integrators and such (although I know SpecViewPerf is free
to use). I would think they also have issues with proprietary 3rd party
software within their benchmarks.

I think they could be supported in the same manner as OSDL, but they are
not, so no open source from SPEC.

--
Geoffrey D. Jacobs

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