On 10/21/2010 02:38 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote:

I'm pretty convinced that, ignoring granularity or political issues,
shared resources save a lot in leadership, infrastructure, space, etc.

No real argument -- I just was pointing out the irony...;-)

Didn't have a chance to respond before ...

I think the real major issue compared to the "olden days" is that if things work out correctly a) the actual incremental cost of adding HPC computing/storage capability is *far* less than it was before, and as importantly, b) you are not locked into a vendor or a technology the way you used to be in the "bad old days."

The second is said somewhat tongue-in-cheek as the rise of more powerful IT groups have sometimes thwarted nascent HPC groups from buying what they want/need. If your university has a purchase agreement with a big tier-1 vendor, you fall squarely in this mix. You can't easily buy what you need, but you can easily buy from a particular vendor. Which might serve an administration deploying lots of web servers well, but might not be the right approach to building an HPC infrastructure. It gets ... erm ... interesting ... when you need to explain the utility of infinband, or why stacked switches are a *very bad idea* or why SANs aren't what most HPC shops need for fast storage ... list goes on.

But thats a conversation for a different thread.


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