Ok, I've got a general question for the wealth of berner knowledge on this
list. And I'm sure this question will be one of those that had widely
opposing views, so be kind to Pat and don't get nasty. Here goes....

I remember when I got my first berner (5 years ago) some admirers of the
breed I'd meet along the way would comment on the temperament they saw
creeping into, what used to be, a very friendly breed. That temperament
being shier, more aloof, less approachable, etc.

As I always do, I brought my new berner to obedience school (at 3 months)
and socialized him with other animals, adults and children (as well as
traffic, trucks, etc.). I would have thought I had done a good job of
exposing him to different things as he grew up. But then at around 9 months,
he started showing signs of the very behaviour I described above. He will
approach anyone he doesn't know with reserve and don't dare pet him until he
says it's OK. Reach out to pat his head and he will jump back and possibly
bark. Once he knows a person, he's more loveable than any berner on the
planet. He actually squeaks if he's happy to see someone he knows.

Now my second berner is the polar opposite. He does the full body wiggle as
he approaches ANYONE. But he went to three levels of what I'd call a better
obedience school. I even went as far as bring him at 9 weeks of age because
I believed the risk of him contracting some puppy disease was less of a
worry than him being under socialized. (Now that's not the point of the
story, so don't anyone start ranting about this aspect, as I would do it
again.)

So my questions are: Is it just genetics that determine this type of trait?
Is it the socialization at a very young age? Does the puppy school make that
much of a difference in the social behaviour of dogs? Can anyone shed any
light on this??

Some notes: I'm not saying either way is right, I'm just wondering what
would determine such a huge variance in social behaviour. Second note: each
berner is from a different breeder with (probably) no ancestral links in
their pedigree. Third note, both are altered males, one altered at 1 year,
one at 5.5 months. First berner was not first dog, we have a GSD that is
three years older than the first berner -- each dog is approximately three
years difference in age. I'd have to say, I'm not a dog idiot, I have read
many books on training and dog behaviours and my training is based on
positive rather than negative. Is it just that the owner gets that much
better with each dog they add to the family??

Jenn Popp
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